Time To Say Goodbye - Campus Crackdown and an Assessment of Leaderless Activism post Occupy

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Today, we talk about everything that’s happening on campus from Columbia to NYU to Berkeley. Tyler talks about the responsibilities of faculty in these moments and what he thinks is driving a surprisingly strong faculty response to the arrests in New York City. We also talk about how to process the instances of antisemitism at these protests and Jay talks about some of the difficulties that have arisen with the leaderless activism model over the past decade or so.

Also, we will be having some announcements coming up in the next weeks so please stay tuned.

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Time To Say Goodbye - A Trauma Surgeon’s Account of a Hospital in Gaza. Our conversation with Dr. Feroze Sidhwa.

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Today’s episode is our conversation with Dr. Feroze Sidhwa, a trauma surgeon who traveled to European Hospital in Gaza in late March. He talks to us about what he saw there and the massive humanitarian toll, particularly on children. We talked about the conditions at the hospital and the role of the doctor as truth teller in a conflict that is being obscured from view.

Dr. Sidhwa and his colleague Dr. Mark Perlmutter wrote an account of their trip which you should read here. And you can see his recent appearance on Democracy Now.



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Time To Say Goodbye - Rural Rage Debunked and the other side of the fascism debate w Danny Bessner

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Today, we have a packed show with our guest Danny Bessner of the American Prestige podcast. Danny argued the other side of the fascism debate and expressed why he and others believe the word is not appropriate to describe what’s happened to the American right.

And Danny stuck around while we discussed Tyler’s debunking of the book “White Rural Rage” and why the type of liberal elite discourse we have right now might eventually be politically catastrophic (while also just being gross.)

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Time To Say Goodbye - In Defense of Normie Liberals and the F Word Debate with John Ganz

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Today’s guest is the John Ganz, author of the Unpopular Front substack and the upcoming book “When The Clock Broke.” We talk about the now years-long debate about whether what’s happening among the right wing in American should be called “fascism” and how such definitions should and should not be used in a political manner. We also talk about normie/resistance liberals and the concept of a popular front that needs to exist to defeat all that Trump might bring with him into office.

These links will be a helpful primer if you’re unfamiliar.

John’s latest on the debate

Andrew Marantz’s latest piece on the debate

Jay



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Time To Say Goodbye - The Kang School for Luddite Teens and Yelling about Kate Middleton

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Tyler is back for today’s episode in which we talk about open container laws in New Jersey, the discourse about the discourse on Kate Middleton and the Royals, and some thoughts on how to get children off their phones and the Internet, more broadly. Jay reveals that his takes are aging at a more rapid rate than he is and Tyler proves his Marxist bonafides by suggesting the most radical plan you’ve ever heard for getting kids to stop staring at some glowing rectangle for hours and hours upon end.

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Time To Say Goodbye - Why Can’t Women’s Coaches Also be Bad People? with Jane Coaston

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Today a very special March Madness episode with New York Times and CNN contributor Jane Coaston. We talk about the recent ascent of women’s basketball, the gendered ways in which we always expect good, progressive behavior from women’s coaches and athletes, Caitlin Clark-as-Larry Bird and Caitlin Clark-as-baller, and a bit about NIL and the transfer portal. I’ve wanted to have Jane on the pod for a very long time and this will not disappoint if you want her very good takes on women’s sports.

Tyler will be back next week.

Enjoy!

Jay



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Time To Say Goodbye - GREAT EXPECTATIONS — TTSG legend Vinson Cunningham talks about Obama, Paul Pierce, and his new novel

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Today’s episode is a talk with Vinson Cunningham about his new novel GREAT EXPECTATIONS which came out yesterday and is in bookstores everywhere.

It’s everything you would expect from Vinson: beautiful sentences, long meditations on hoops, the church, and love, and a engrossing storyline that follows a young man who goes to work on the campaign of a certain senator from Illinois during his first presidential run.

BUY IT HERE.

And if you’re in New York City, Vinson will be in conversation with Doreen St. Felix tonight at Greenlight Books in Brooklyn.

Jay



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Time To Say Goodbye - AI is still a bit disappointing but at least it uses a lot of energy. A talk with Karen Hao and Ben Recht

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Today, we talk to two people who have been thinking about reporting about AI for quite a long time: Repeat guest Ben Recht, a professor of electrical engineering and computer science at Berkeley and Karen Hao, a journalist who has written an excellent series of pieces for the Atlantic. We talk to Ben about SORA, OpenAI’s video generator that only exists in trailer form so far and what might happen if it’s actually good. (We don’t think it’ll be good. At least yet.) And then we talk some philosophy.

There’s also a surprise at the start of the show.

And then we talk to Karen about the massive amount of water and energy that AI might consume in the near future and why everyone seems to want massive, cumbersome and expense-heavy giant tools and not the smaller, more streamlined tools that might actually create something of use.

Links:

SORA announcement

Karen’s articles on AI for the MIT Technology Review (really good)

…and her more recent (also really good) work for the Atlantic.

thank you!



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Time To Say Goodbye - How We Talk about Self Immolation

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On today’s episode, we talk about Aaron Bushnell, the active-duty Air Force twenty-five year old who self-immolated in Washington, D.C., the history of the act and how it has been seen in different eras and different contexts. We compare, for example, how Barack Obama talked about the self-immolation of Mohamed Bouazizi, a Tunisian street vendor who is credited with sparking the Arab Spring with how much of the liberal commentariat talks about Bushnell (largely in terms of mental health). And we try to make sense of what demands this act places on the public and how it could be understood.

We also talk about this:

We also talk about Jay’s recent article about Pretendianism in the New Yorker and Tyler talks about his own experiences as a minority in the academy.

Some reading:

Wapo report on Bushnell

Article Jay wrote in 2022 about the self immolation of Wynn Bruce

Pretendian article

Enjoy!



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Time To Say Goodbye - Will Minorities Actually Vote for Trump?

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Today, we talked about a topic that we’ve been circling around for a while — the minority vote. We now have months of polls all pointing towards the same trends in terms of Black, Latino and Asian voters all moving towards the right for a variety of reasons, most of which are left unexamined by many in the mainstream presses.

That, of course, doesn’t mean that we don’t hear about the “Black vote” or the “Latino vote.” We do read the polling results and see charts detailing the shift. But that second part — the explanation for why — almost never gets voiced for what I imagine is the very simple reason that most campaigns, pundits, and the like don’t really know the answers.

We talk about all that on the show and give our own thoughts about why different groups of people might be leaving the Democrat Party and what implications it might have not just on 2024, but for the future of progressive politics. Can the Dems hold together their coalition by just screaming at minorities that if they don’t show up, they’re going to be living in a fascist state?

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READING LIST

Article in Slow Boring about the moderate Black voter

Poll of Latino voters shows concerns about inflation and the economy

Recent research showing that Black voter concerns about Climate Change

Is Biden’s Israel policy alienating Black voters?



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