Time To Say Goodbye - AOC at the DNC, WeChat, and Right-Wing Asians

Hello from behind the Great Firewall!

As summer winds down and election season begins to heat up, we reflect on the political prospects of Asian America and the mess that is the Democratic Party. We discuss AOC’s speech at the DNC last week as evidence that the party has lost the thread. We then examine Trump’s WeChat ban and the many uses of this Chinese super app. This leads to a concluding conversation about whether first- and second- (and third-...) generation Asian Americans could trend rightward as part of a racial realignment in both parties.

0:00 – An update on the start of school, the wildfires in northern California, and failed Covid policies. 

10:40 – Who said it best? We debate the messaging of the Democrats during last week’s convention and whether the speech by the party’s rising star (and TTSG favorite), AOC, captured the urgency of the moment. Are accusations of elitism fair? Or just bad faith? Also, debater Jay makes his return and recites his own version of a convention speech in an effort to get AOC’s attention. 

26:05 – Why WeChat? The Trump administration’s ban on TikTok may claim, as a collateral casualty, the messaging-payment-social-media super app WeChat. The administration doesn’t seem to understand what the app is used for, but it’s clear that a WeChat ban would hurt hundreds of millions of Chinese in China and abroad—and tank iPhone sales in China.

While free-speech concerns are well founded, we consider how WeChat and other Asian apps have been used to organize right-wing diasporic activism, including anti-affirmative-action drives. We revisit Jay’s interview with Viet Thanh Nguyen about first-generation immigrant conservatism—and “Four Prisons,” an essay by Glenn Omatsu, on the rightward turn of earlier Asian activists. (Thanks to listener Naomi Hirahara.) 

Edit: see also this 2018 article from Alia Wong on WeChat and anti-affirmative action politics: “The App at the Heart of the Movement to End Affirmative Action.”

43:20 – Are we gonna go neocon? Jay worries that, on account of the weird politics around standardized testing and affirmative action, Asian Americans will become more conservative and eventually vote Republican. Is the conservative critique of the Democrats correct: that identity politics have superseded a universal economic focus? Have both parties engaged in a Black/white culture war that leaves many Asians and Latinos bereft? (Caveat: not the Bernie-crats!) Tammy argues that the debate over immigration policy will give the Democrats an edge in the foreseeable future.

Feel free to contact us with comments and questions at @TTSGPod or timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com, and please share and subscribe!



This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit goodbye.substack.com/subscribe

CBS News Roundup - World News Roundup: 08/25

Fellow Republicans rally support for President Trump. Another night of protests after Wisconsin police shooting. Marco fizzles as Laura heads for the Gulf. CBS News Correspondent Steve Kathan has today's World News Roundup.

To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

NBN Book of the Day - Steven Shapin, “The Scientific Revolution” (U Chicago Press, 2018)

“There was no such thing as the Scientific Revolution, and this is a book about it.” With this provocative and apparently paradoxical claim, Steven Shapin begins The Scientific Revolution (University of Chicago Press, 2018), his bold, vibrant exploration of the origins of the modern scientific worldview, now updated with a new bibliographic essay featuring the latest scholarship.

Steven Shapin is the Franklin L. Ford Research Professor of the History of Science at Harvard University. His books include Leviathan and the Air-Pump (with Simon Schaffer), A Social History of Truth: Civility and Science in Seventeenth-Century England, and The Scientific Life: A Moral History of a Late Modern Vocation.

Mark Molloy is the reviews editor at MAKE: A Literary Magazine.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/book-of-the-day

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders - S3 E6: Elias Torres, Drift

A first generation LatinX immigrant, Elias Torres was born in Nicaragua. Growing up in a communist country, he had little resources, even food. Thirty years ago, he came to the US, and hasn't looked back, living the American dream and graduating from Harvard with an MS in Computer Science. He's married with 3 teenagers, and is currently learning a new stage of parenthood. When he's not being Dad or CTO, he enjoys disconnecting while he is kite surfing or sailing. Torres strives to find balance in building a successful company as an entrepreneur with not forgetting his roots, and increasing opportunities for people of color in the US. Five years ago, He and his co-founder figured out that teams needed to increase the effectiveness of their go to market strategy. Today, everyone wants to do things in real time... not during the 9 to 5. So he set out to build a revenue acceleration platform, and did so quickly, given that this was the 4th company the founders built together. This is the creation story of Drift.


Links


Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts

 

Amazing tools we use:

  • If you want the best publishing platform for your podcast, with amazing support & people - use Transistor.fm
  • Want to record your remote interviews with class? Then, you need to use Squadcast.
  • Code Story uses the 1-click product ClipGain, sign up now to get 3hrs of podcast processing time FREE


Credits: Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Labhart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple PodcastsSpotifyPocket CastsGoogle PlayBreakerYoutube, or the podcasting app of your choice.



Our Sponsors:
* Check out Vanta: https://vanta.com/CODESTORY


Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/code-story/donations

Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Intelligence from The Economist - Insecurity services? Alexei Navalny’s poisoning

Doctors believe Russia’s opposition leader was poisoned, and suspicion naturally falls on the Kremlin. Why might the country’s leadership have taken such a risk? For LGBT people coming out is, in many places, far easier and more commonplace than it once was—thanks in part to the internet. And why a younger generation is shunning Laos’s traditional ant-egg soup. For full access to print, digital and audio editions of The Economist, subscribe here www.economist.com/intelligenceoffer

The Best One Yet - “Codename: CIA IPO” — Palantir’s ironic leak. Luminar’s laser stock. Uber/Lyft’s politics.

The secretive tech icon Palantir’s IPO paperwork just un-secretly leaked. Luminar is yet another electric car startup going public through SPAC — except this one shoots laser beams and is run by a 25-year-old CEO. And we’re looking at how the shutdown of Uber and Lyft in California last week didn’t happen, but revealed their unique in-app policy power about the new battle, Prop 22. $UBER $LYFT Want a shoutout on the pod? We got the form for Snackers to fill out right here: https://forms.gle/KhUAo31xmkSdeynD9 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What Next | Daily News and Analysis - The U.S. Can Fix Its COVID Testing Failures

Getting tested for the coronavirus has never been as easy as it should be in the U.S. We’ve seen equipment shortages, long delays for test results, and even mixed messages about who should be getting tested.

But there is a way to fix America’s inadequate testing. And experts say it could return some normalcy even before we have a reliable vaccine.

Guest: Robinson Meyer, a staff writer at The Atlantic. Read his latest story, The Plan That Could Give Us Our Lives Back.

Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices