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Hello from Tammy’s snowbank!
This week, we welcome TTSG friend Hua Hsu, a professor at Vassar and a staff writer at The New Yorker, who just wrote an excellent pre-election story: “Are Asian Americans the Last Undecided Voters?” The piece digs into stuff we’ve been obsessing about, on and off the air, including the fuzziness of the Asian American label, the rise of East Asian Republicans, organizing on ethnicity-specific chat apps, the OC, and Asian-Latino “immigrant” identities. Our discussion also complements Andy’s bonus episode with Bernie folks, Brooke Adams and Tobita Chow, from last week. Then, a quick look at the global crisis playing out in Vietnam.
A long episode, but a good one. Big props to listeners who make it all the way through!
0:00 – Why does Hua eat “adult pouches”? Can he bring Jay and Andy over to his side?
13:00 – California Governor Gavin Newsom “tiniest dog-whistled” Asians in the early days of the American pandemic, by blaming transmission on nail salons. Who’s Janet Nguyen, and how did she fight back?
41:00 – “Education and opportunity” are Asian values, right? But are they a sufficient basis for organizing? And are they liberal or conservative, right- or left-wing?
1:05:00 – Do Asian American voters care about foreign policy?
1:26:55 – Maybe Asian American politics can just be, well, politics. How do we make a universalist political program our own?
1:37:55 – You still with us? Tammy gets the guys to talk about the historic, deadly floods in Vietnam, and what they tell us about climate change. What are the overlaps with the Vietnamese economy and the coronavirus? Could the climate catastrophe replicate Asian refugee routes once caused by war?
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Hey Uncivil listeners! We want to share a new show we think you’ll love, made by one of our producers. Resistance is a show about refusing to accept things as they are. Stories from the front lines of the movement for Black lives, told by the generation fighting for change. In this first episode, 22-year-old Chi Ossé goes out to protest and the trajectory of his life is changed forever. If you like this episode, follow now on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Justice Amy Coney Barrett takes the bench. The candidates rally support with one week to go. Southern California wildfire. CBS News Correspondent Steve Kathan has today's World News Roundup.
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Almost every product under the sun can be delivered to your door in two days - or sometimes two hours. Except alcohol! Live in Vermont and want to order a 12-pack of IPAs from your favorite Michigan brewery? Sorry. Resident in NYC and want to order a bottle of that new small batch Kentucky bourbon you’ve been eyeing? Sure, COVID’s changed things, but how? And how long will it last? We’ll discuss when and where you can get booze at your doorstep.
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Ant Group Could Raise World’s Largest IPO: WaPo, WSJ, NY Times
Facebook Launches Cloud Gaming Service: WaPo, WSJ, The Verge, CNBC, Facebook
Google Products Use Recycled Material: The Verge, 9to5 Google, Google
Taylor Swift Sets a 2020 Record: Billboard, WaPo, BBC
Tom Brady’s New Record: CNN, NBC Sports, Orlando Sentinel
Amanda Holmes reads Forugh Farrokhzad’s poem, “Wind-Up Doll,” translated from the Persian by Sholeh Wolpé. Have a suggestion for a poem by a (dead) writer? Email us: podcast@theamericanscholar.org. If we select your entry, you’ll win a copy of a poetry collection edited by David Lehman.
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On the Gist, Trump and Armenians.
In the interview, Georgia Public Broadcasting’s Bill Nigut is here to talk with Mike about Georgia. He fills Mike in on the details of the fight between Kelly Loeffler, Doug Collins, and Raphael Warnock, and shares how impressed he’s been with Jon Ossoff’s debate performance against incumbent David Perdue. They also discuss how Biden is trying to reach voters in the state, and if there’s any chance it could go blue. Nigut is the host of Political Rewind.
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The pandemic dominates the final week of the election, the dueling candidate schedules reflect their most likely paths to 270, and what the early vote can and can’t tell us about the election. Then Wisconsin organizer Dakota Hall talks to Tommy about how Democrats can turn out as many young voters as possible.