New Books in Native American Studies - David Tavárez, “The Invisible War: Indigenous Devotions, Discipline, and Dissent in Colonial Mexico” (Stanford UP, 2011)

David Tavárez is a historian and linguistic anthropologist; he is Professor of Anthropology and Director of Latin American and Latino/a Studies at Vassar College. He is a specialist in Nahuatl and Zapotec texts, the study of Mesoamerican religions and rituals, Catholic campaigns against idolatry, Indigenous intellectuals, and native Christianities. He is the author or co-author of several books and dozens of articles and chapters.

This is his second time on the podcast; the first one was about his edited volume, Words & Worlds Turned Around (2017), and here is the link for that discussion.

Today’s interview is about Professor Tavárez’s book The Invisible War: Indigenous Devotions, Discipline, and Dissent in Colonial Mexico (Stanford University Press), which was first his doctoral dissertation, then was published in 2011, and came out in paperback in 2013. In this book, Professor Tavárez guides his readers through four centuries of the Mexican Inquisition in the episcopal sees of México and Oaxaca. His work is the result of ten years of research in twenty-nine archives in Mexico, Spain, the United States, France, Belgium, Italy, and Vatican City, following 160 judges and 896 defendants accused of “idolatry, sorcery, and superstition”.

In this discussion Dr. Tavárez explains the origin and ethos of the ecclesial and judicial authorities, their changes over time, and their internal disagreements. He also describes the nature of the societies they were trying to influence, and how these movements changed since the sixteenth century, following them to the present day. The painting of the 1716 Auto de Fe that is on the cover of his book and that Dr. Tavárez talks about with the host during the interview can be seen here.

Krzysztof Odyniec is a historian of the Spanish Empire, specializing in sixteenth-century diplomacy and travel. He has also written about missionary efforts in Early Modern Colonial Mexico.

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What A Day - Take It Espy

Former Congressman and Secretary of Agriculture Mike Espy is running for Senate in Mississippi, hoping to be the first Democrat to represent the state in the Senate in over thirty years. He’s nearly tied with his opponent, incumbent Republican Cindy Hyde Smith, who’s previously joked about “public hangings” and held up the legacy of Confederate soldiers.

We talk to him about his race, Trump’s refusal to renounce White supremacists, the Supreme Court, and how the pandemic is impacting Mississippians.

And in headlines: California establishes path to reparations for slavery, fires in Brazil’s tropical wetlands, and Trump’s White House gives the go-ahead to cruise ships.

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Short Wave - Want To Dismantle Racism In Science? Start In The Classroom

Some of the most prestigious scientists in history advanced racist and eugenicist views. But why is that rarely mentioned in textbooks? Today on the show, we speak with science educators building an anti-racist perspective into their curriculum and seeking to make the science classroom more inclusive.

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The Goods from the Woods - “The Corona Diaries #89”

Three L.A. comedians are quarantined in a podcast studio during a global pandemic. There is literally nothing to be done EXCEPT make content. These are "The Corona Diaries" and this is Episode 89. Sitting in with us again today is our hilarious next door neighbor, Daniel Magden! Follow him on Twitter @MagdenDaniel and check out his podcast "Reefer Sadness".  Music at the end is "That Thing You Do" by The Oneders.

How Rep. Debbie Lesko Is Fighting For the Rights of All Women

Rep. Debbie Lesko, R-Ariz., is a powerful voice for conservative women across America.

Lesko, the only female member of the House Freedom Caucus, joins “Problematic Women” to explain how she is working to defend women’s sports from the agenda of radical LGBTQ groups.

Lesko also share her own journey into the pro-life movement and why she fights to protect the lives of the unborn. 

We also cover these stories: 

  • The Senate Judiciary Committee questions James Comey, the former FBI director, about his knowledge of the beginning stages of the Russia investigation
  • Senator Tim Scott says he believes the President misspoke when he did not directly condemn white supremacists during Tuesday night’s first presidential debate. 
  • Daniel Cameron, the attorney general of Kentucky, asks for more time before releasing the recordings of the grand jury during the Breonna Taylor hearing. 

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The Gist - Dastardly Debate

On the Gist, there were a great many missteps last night on the presidential debate stage, but despite the rhetorical slips, Biden stayed on his feet to glide past Trump.

In the interview, Mike and Slate’s national correspondent, Will Saletan, recap the first presidential debate. They dissect the prep and implemented strategies of both the Trump and Biden camps, the gratuitous exchanges between the two candidates, Chris Wallace’s performance as moderator, and how to curb the electoral nightmare scenarios looming on the horizon.

In the spiel, Donald Trump did not say, "Yes!" when asked if he repudiated white supremacy. But was it because he wouldn't do it, or was it because he has the inability to articulate?

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