Time To Say Goodbye - The OG podsquad reflects on 2022

Hello from what feels like the distant past! 

This week, erstwhile co-host Andy Liu joins Jay and Tammy to look back on 2022. (A note from Mai, our producer: Paid subscribers can get the full version of this ep, with some bonus banter about gambling, parental virtue signaling, etc.! Also, we recorded a week ago, so please forgive dated references to Morocco in the World Cup, Elon, and Jay’s not-yet-born second child.)

Twenty twenty-two was big for TTSG’s resident parents. Andy and his wife Reiko had their second kid in May, and Jay and his wife Casey just welcomed their second child this week! 

Speaking of kids, [14:10] Andy gets the podsquad to analyze Fear of Falling, Barbara Ehrenreich’s 1989 study of U.S. middle-class identity and the “professional managerial class.” We dissect Ehrenreich’s theories about educational capital, anxiety over class decline, and how this feeling of precarity animates many Americans’ concepts of the family. Plus: Malcolm Harris’s contribution to the discourse; and [31:30] Andy’s take on labor unrest in academia and a less exploitative vision for higher education.  

[41:10] Next, Tammy talks geopolitics and the bellicose, paranoid shift spurred by the war in Ukraine. Have we moved past the era of “stateless” threats (i.e., the War on Terror) and returned to a global order that pits the U.S. against China and Russia? What of the super-statist international cooperation we imagined in our youth, and what does the Ukraine war mean for small countries? We also talk about the ever-increasing (and rarely disputed) defense spending in the U.S. as well as Korea's rising profile as an arms dealer to the world. 

[52:50] Last, Jay observes that race and identity have recently come to feel less central to our national discourse. Why the lackluster defense of affirmative action? Why is there so little public anger over police killings? We try to unpack the many possible causes—anxiety about the midterms, inflation, media skew—and ask whether the shift is ultimately good or bad. 

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60 Songs That Explain the '90s - Mailbag

Rob is joined by ‘Bandsplain’ host Yasi Salek to read some of your fan mail and answer questions. Why do you live in Ohio? Which band do you regret not having an episode on? Nirvana or Pearl Jam? Tune in to hear Rob answer these questions and more.

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Everything Everywhere Daily - Mount Athos (Encore)

In northern Greece, lying off the larger Chalkidiki peninsula is a place that is unique on planet Earth. 

It only has a population of about 2,400 people scattered across 20 settlements and some random people living by themselves.  

What makes this area unique is that all 2,400 of its citizens are monks and all are men….and women are not allowed to even enter. 

Learn more about the Monastic Republic of Mount Athos on this episode of Everything Everywhere Daily. 


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The NewsWorthy - Zelensky’s Historic Visit, Musk Stepping Down & Victory Parade Evacs- Wednesday, December 21, 2022

The news to know for Wednesday, December 21, 2022!

We're talking about what could be a historic visit: what's expected when Ukraine's president comes to Washington, D.C.

Also, did Twitter help the Pentagon run a secret propaganda campaign? We're sharing details from the latest installment of the so-called Twitter Files and some news about a big leadership shakeup at the social network.

Plus, the track of a once-in-a-generation winter storm, why Wells Fargo is paying a record-breaking fine to the government, and how a World Cup victory parade got so out of hand that the players had to be airlifted out.

Those stories and more news to know in around 10 minutes!

Head to www.theNewsWorthy.com/shownotes for sources and to read more about any of the stories mentioned today.

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NPR's Book of the Day - In ‘Grocery Shopping With My Mother,’ a son becomes a caretaker

Author Kevin Powell grew up without much physical affection. He says the first time someone tried to hug him was in college; it felt like a foreign concept to him. In his new book of poetry, Grocery Shopping With My Mother, Powell examines his relationship with the single mother who raised him – the one he now cares for in her older age. He tells NPR's Scott Simon that writing becomes a way to heal and forgive, even if it means confronting a whole lot of hurt.

Lost Debate - Ep 102 | Mayhem @ Twitter, Asian-American College Apps, 2022 Faves

Ravi and Rikki start with a week’s worth of peak mayhem at Twitter, from the @ElonJet ban, to suspended reporters, to a poll (maybe) deciding Musk’s future at the platform. Then the hosts turn to yet more light on the recent topic of a Regressives episode: discrimination against Asian-American college applicants. Finally, we share some of our favorite content to end the year.


[2:43] Twitter Mayhem

[16:00] Asian-American College Applicants 

[25:40] 2022 Faves

[33:25] Assisted Suicide Voicemails


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The Gist - The Symbolic Meaninglessness Of Criminal Referrals

The January 6th Committee has wrapped up their case against former President Trump and will be referring their findings and quite a bit of evidence to Joe Biden’s Department of Justice. But we all know the Zen koan of prosecuting Trump: The destination is the journey, because he doesn’t write anything down. Then, in part two of our interview with Sam Quinones, author of The Least Of Us: True Tales Of America And Hope In The Time Of Fentanyl And Meth, we discuss pleasure centers and hucksterism. And in the Spiel, you’ll get familiar with Mike’s opinion about the criminal prosecution of nonagenrian nazis.


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