CoinDesk Podcast Network - UNCHAINED: How Ethereum’s Dencun Upgrade Could Lead to the Rise of Millions of Layer 3s

Base creator Jesse Pollak argues that much cheaper Layer 2 transactions, as well as other developments, will enable the creation of multitudes of specialized Layer 3s that are deeply connected to the onchain economy. 


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Ethereum’s long-awaited Dencun upgrade finally went live this week, and many L2s immediately saw their transaction fees fall dramatically, as was the intention. Among them was the Coinbase-incubated Base, which was created by Jesse Pollak. Pollak joined Unchained to discuss the impact Dencun was having on Base; how he thinks Layer 1s and Layer 2s will start to differ from one another and eventually spawn a multitude of specialized Layer 3s; his response to criticisms of the increasing use of Layer 2s, what he’s focusing on now, and why he supports using the word “onchain” over “crypto” or “web3.” 

Show highlights:

  • The problem that Dencun is trying to solve
  • The benefits of blobs and blobspace
  • How Dencun has already reduced Base’s fees, but also increased its transactions
  • How Jesse thinks Layer 1s and Layer 2s will start to become differentiated from each other
  • The rise of Layer 3s
  • How Jesse addresses criticisms of fragmentation and centralization arising from the increasing use of Layer 2s
  • Why Jesse is particularly excited about two features of the Dencun upgrade—transient storage and increased composability between L1s and L2s
  • What Jesse and the Base team are focusing on now
  • Why Jesse thinks that “onchain” is a better word to describe the industry than “crypto”  or “blockchain” or “web3” 

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Guest | 

Jesse Pollak, creator of Base at Coinbase

Previous appearances:  The Chopping Block: All About That Base With Jesse Pollak 

Links |

Recent coverage on Unchained of the Dencun Upgrade and Base: 

Dencun Day One: Ethereum Layer 2 Networks See Drastic Drop in Transaction Fees

Ethereum Completes Milestone Dencun Upgrade, Which Should Substantially Reduce Fees

How Much Will the Dencun Upgrade Really Reduce Ethereum Layer 2 Fees By?

Why Base’s Creator Thinks Social Apps Will Be a ‘Huge Part’ of the Layer 2 Blockchain’s Success

CoinDesk: Debating Dencun: Will Ethereum's Big Update Help or Harm the Network?

Jesse’s tweets on Dencun

October 2022   |  January 2024  |  March 13, 2024 


Blobs / Proto-danksharding

EIP-4844 proposal

Blobs unleashed: Ethereum’s Dencun upgrade activates on mainnet 

Base says it will support EIP-4844 from 'day 1' following Dencun upgrade 

Ethereum stans are putting the Bee Movie on blobs for as little as $5

Superchain

Decentralizing Base with the OP Stack and Optimism 

Base’s Commitment to Decentralization with the Superchain 

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Big Technology Podcast - Is AI Slowing Down?, Trouble at Tesla, Kate Middleton’s Bad At Photoshop

Ranjan Roy from Margins is back for our weekly discussion of the latest tech news. We cover 1) AI sales leaders at Google and Amazon tempering expectations 2) Adobe as a practical example of AI hype vs. reality 3) Does Adobe belong in the magnificent 7? 4) Gartner predicts traditional search volume drops 25% by 2026 5) OpenAI video generator Sora is coming out later this year 6) OpenAI CTO Mira Murati didn't know what data Sora trained on 7) Murati address NYTimes report that he helped oust Sam Altman 8) OpenAI adds three members to its board 9) Instacart CEO Fidji Simo joins OpenAI board, so, more advertising in ChatGPT? 10) A meditation on covering Elon Musk 11) Tough times for Tesla 12) TikTok ban latest 13) Kate Middleton's bad photoshop job

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CoinDesk Podcast Network - MARKETS DAILY: CoinDesk Markets Week in Review

CoinDesk Indices presents notable data insights from the week, followed by additional analysis from an industry expert.

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The CoinDesk Market Index (CMI) functions as a benchmark for the performance of the digital asset market, delivering institutional quality information to digital asset investors. Subsets of the CoinDesk Market Index (CMI) are investible CoinDesk Crypto Sectors and the CoinDesk 20 Index, designed to measure the performance of the top digital assets. Today’s takeaways are provided by Tracy Stephens, senior index manager at CoinDesk Indices with additional analysis from David Attermann, senior portfolio manager at M31 Capital. For more on CoinDesk Indices, visit: coindeskmarkets.com.

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Stuff They Don't Want You To Know - STDWYTK presents The Passage: Hoover’s Confession

J. Edgar Hoover was a legendarily paranoid man -- but what if there was a reason for his intense, myopic obsession with surveillance and privacy? How about this: Did you ever wonder why the guys have done so many episodes about satellites and space fungus recentlly? In tonight's special episode, the guys present an episode from The Passage, a new podcast that takes you on a ride into the land of the dead, traveling with the Ferryman as he collects America’s most illustrious spirits and delivers them to the hereafter. This episode -- Hoover's Confession -- was written by Ben and executive produced by Matt. We hope it keeps you up at night.

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CoinDesk Podcast Network - THE MINING POD: Rapper French Montana Is All in on Ordinals

Charlie, Matt and Will jump back into our news roundup to go through this week’s Bitcoin mining hits, including mining profitability, rapper French Montana minting a music Ordinal and the Biden administration taking a second shot at a 30% tax on Bitcoin miners.

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It’s getting frothy out there! On this week’s news roundup, Charlie, Matt and Will go through this week’s hottest stories in Bitcoin and Bitcoin mining including a 4 megabyte music Ordinal (think music NFT but on Bitcoin) from rapper French Montana, among a host of other movements in the mining industry like the Biden admin’s renewed attempts to tax Bitcoin mining.

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Focus on Africa - Will the Rwandan elections be free and fair?

The Rwandan government says elections will be free and fair. But how democratic will they be if an opposition leader has been banned from standing?

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And a young innovator in Sierra Leone designs a robot which he says will preach peace to the world.

Federalist Radio Hour - Finding Purpose In Modern Work

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