CoinDesk Podcast Network - UNCHAINED: What’s a Fair Value for Crypto Networks Like BTC, ETH and SOL?

Valuing decentralized networks such as Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Solana is tricky. In this episode, Jon Charbonneau breaks down the key factors that determine the value of blockchain networks and how Layer 2s impact these valuations.

How do you determine the value of decentralized networks like Bitcoin, Ethereum, or Solana? It’s not as straightforward as traditional investments.

Jon Charbonneau, general partner at crypto investment firm DBA, joins Unchained after writing a paper that dives deep into the complexities of valuing blockchain networks. He explains why applying traditional equity models to networks such as Bitcoin falls short, how tax inefficiencies in staking rewards impact valuations, and whether Layer 2 solutions like Optimism and Arbitrum are helping or hurting the long-term value of Layer 1 blockchains.

Also, he looks at the big question—are these networks sustainable in the long run?

Show highlights:

  • What motivated Jon to write the paper
  • What the main points of the paper are
  • Why tax inefficiencies in staking rewards are a critical factor in valuing decentralized networks and how they differ from traditional corporate taxes
  • What makes valuing networks tricky, as Jon explains how proof-of-work vs. proof-of-stake systems differ from traditional equity models
  • How he thinks about valuing Layer 2s and whether they are parasitic to the L1
  • Whether blockchains are sustainable in the long term

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Big Technology Podcast - OpenAI and Microsoft’s Tension, Apple Screens Everywhere, Meta’s Toothpaste Massacre

Ranjan Roy from Margins is back for our weekly discussion of the latest tech news. Cory Weinberg from The Information joins us for the first half! We cover 1) Open AI and Microsoft’s relationship starting to fray 2) Microsoft rebuffing OpenAI's fundraising efforts 3) Mustafa Suleyman's impact on the Microsoft - OpenAI dynamic 4) Why OpenAI sought Apple and NVIDIA's investment 5) Softbank from the top rope 6) When might OpenAI declare it's reached AGI? 7) Microsoft and OpenAI sort out ownership stakes in a new for-profit entity 8) Apple's new smart home strategy 9) Netflix's earnings and engagement questions 10) Meta fires employees for using meal money on toothpaste 11) Silicon Valley and FIRE

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CoinDesk Podcast Network - MARKETS DAILY: COINDESK MARKETS WEEK IN REVIEW

CoinDesk Indices presents notable data insights from the week, followed by additional analysis from Kelly Ye, Portfolio Manager at Decentral Park Capital.

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The CoinDesk Market Index (CMI) functions as a benchmark for the performance of the digital asset market, delivering institutional quality information to digital asset investors. Subsets of the CoinDesk Market Index (CMI) are investable CoinDesk Crypto Sectors and the CoinDesk 20 Index, designed to measure the performance of top digital assets. Today’s takeaways are provided by Tracy Stephens, senior index manager at CoinDesk Indices with additional analysis from Kelly Ye, Portfolio Manager at Decentral Park Capital.

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First Things Podcast - The Life and Letters of a Fiery Jesuit

In this episode, First Things senior editor Dan Hitchens joins Rusty Reno at The Editor’s Desk to talk about his book review, “Charity And Sarcasm” from the November 2024 print edition of the magazine. Please subscribe to the magazine at www.firstthings.com/subscribe in order to access this and many other great pieces!

The Bulwark Podcast - Live from Philadelphia (Again)

The Bulwark kicked off its weekend 'Swing State Swing" in the City of Brotherly Love Thursday before a packed house. George Conway, Sarah Matthews, and Tim talked about psychopaths, narcissists, and how voters need to understand that if Trump didn't even care what happened to his VP on Jan 6, he certainly doesn't care about them.


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You're Wrong About - A MASSIVE SEANCE Live Show Tour with American Hysteria

What could possibly go wrong when two skeptical podcasters try to summon a ghost? Join Sarah and Chelsey Weber-Smith (of American Hysteria) for a historical, theatrical, ecstatic spectacular for the living and dead. Hold hands with your favorite disembodied voices for a spiritualist séance* featuring fireside conversation, mystifying tricks, special guests, and music from The Little Lies – the only Fleetwood Mac tribute band that may actually be ghosts. This winter, we will release the phantoms of the past year and make room for the spirit of the new.

Tickets are available here.

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DEC 3 + 4 | PORTLAND, OR | Aladdin Theater

DEC 11 | SEATTLE, WA | The Moore Theatre

JAN 11 | SAN FRANCISCO, CA | Palace of Fine Arts Theater

JAN 24 | LOS ANGELES, CA | The Regent Theater

Produced in collaboration with Woody Shticks + Miranda Zickler

*May contain exorcisms.

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Stuff They Don't Want You To Know - CLASSIC: The Camp Minden Conspiracy

In October of 2012 a huge explosion rocked Camp Minden, a little-known government compound located in Louisiana. The explosion shattered windows 4 miles away. A 7,000-foot mushroom cloud contaminated the area and eyewitnesses understandably wondered whether they'd been the victims of a nuclear detonation. So what exactly did happen? Tune in to learn more about the conspiracy afoot at Camp Minden. 

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CoinDesk Podcast Network - THE MINING POD: US Miners Grow Market Share, MARA’s $200m BTC Loan, and Cipher’s 1.5 GW Buy

In the news this week, a couple of $200 million headlines, 1.5 GWs of acquisition aspiration, and public US miners grow their hashrate share.

Welcome back to the Mining Pod! For this week’s news roundup, Colin and Matt discuss how US public bitcoin miners are growing their share of Bitcoin's hashrate. Plus, Marathon is leveraging its trove of 26,000+ BTC and Cipher is going bigly with three pending mining site acquisitions for a total of 1.5 GW of capacity, some of which the miner may allocate toward AI/HPC compute. They also touch on some AI updates from Crusoe and Bit Digital, and in this week’s cry corner, why grown men are getting big mad about arbitrary data on  everyone’s favorite block explorer. 

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Timestamps:

00:00 Start

01:42 Difficulty update

04:19 29% PubCo Hashrate report JPMorgan

10:50 MARA Unlocks $200M BTC-Backed Credit Line

18:06 Cipher Mining Acquires 1.5 GW in Texas

24:37 Blue Owl Backs Crusoe in AI Move

29:35 Bit Digital Acquires HPC Data Center

32:38 Cry corner: "Runes, ordinals, etc don’t exist"

Published twice weekly, "The Mining Pod" interviews the best builders and operators in the Bitcoin and Bitcoin mining landscape. Subscribe to get notifications when we publish interviews on Tuesday and a news show on Friday! 

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Focus on Africa - What Kenyan youth make of deputy president’s sacking

There was drama in Kenyan politics this week which ended with the impeachment of deputy president  Rigathi Gachagua. Young people voted in big numbers during the general elections in 2022.  Two youths share their views on the matter.

Why has the government of Ivory Coast dissolved all student unions?

And how Al-Shabab militia in Mogadishu are making life difficult for business owners with CCTV cameras on their premises.

Presenter Charles Gitonga Producers: Frenny Jowi, Blessing Aderogba, Yvette Twagiramariya and Paul Bakibinga Technical Producer: Francesca Dunne Editors: Andre Lombard and Alice Muthengi.