Risky Business with Nate Silver and Maria Konnikova - Why did COVID Decision-Making Go So Wrong? (with David Zweig)

Early in the COVID pandemic, the US closed schools and sent kids home. And then, the schools stayed closed—even as they began to reopen in other parts of the world. Experts and officials claimed that these measures sprang from “an abundance of caution.” But what was the evidence on the necessity of keeping kids home? And, looking back, did the benefits of prolonged school closures outweigh the costs?

This week, Nate interviews author and journalist David Zweig about his book examining COVID policies and school closure decisions during the pandemic. They get into why we tend to find cost-benefit analysis so difficult, how political polarization shaped decision-making during the pandemic, and how the COVID models failed.

Further Reading:

David Zweig’s book is An Abundance of Caution: American Schools, the Virus, and a Story of Bad Decisions

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It Could Happen Here - The Minnesota Assassination & Evangelical Terrorism

James and Gare discuss the targeted assassination of a Minnesota Democrat by an anti-abortion evangelical missionary.

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Reset with Sasha-Ann Simons - What A Weakened 14th Amendment Could Mean For America

Today marks the anniversary of the ratification of the 14th Amendment, which established citizenship for freed slaves and women. The anniversary comes at a time when birthright citizenship is under threat by the Trump administration. Reset digs into what a weakened 14th Amendment could mean for Americans with Evan Bernick, associate professor of law at Northern Illinois University, and David Stovall, professor of Black Studies at the University of Illinois Chicago. For a full archive of Reset interviews, head over to wbez.org/reset.

The Goods from the Woods - Episode #483 – “2009” (Part 1) with Keith Carey, Kyle Clark, & Jordan Williams

In this episode, Rivers is joined at Disgraceland Studios by THREE hilarious people, comedians Keith Carey, Kyle Clark, and the INCREDIBLE visual artist Jordan Williams for our annual tradition of trying to find the funniest year of all time. This time, it's all about THE YEAR 2009. In Part 1, we go into absolutely everything from the first six months of this year: movies, music, TV, and politics. We also get pretty drunk on Four LOKO. This was an absolutely crazy year for news and pop culture and we hope y'all have as much fun listening to it as we did recording it.  Follow Keith and Kyle on all forms of social media @KeithTellsJokes and @KyleClarkIsRad respectively. Check out Jordan's incredible art on Instagram @GooneyBirdCrafts. Rivers is @RiversLangley  Sam is @SlamHarter  Carter is @Carter_Glascock  Subscribe on Patreon for an UNCUT video version of the show as well as HOURS of bonus content! http://patreon.com/TheGoodsPod Pick up a Goods from the Woods t-shirt at: http://prowrestlingtees.com/TheGoodsPod 

The Source - Fitbit or Fit-snitch: The Promise and Pitfalls of Wearable Health Technology

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Consider This from NPR - After devastating floods a Central Texas community comes together

It's been nearly a week since devastating flooding tore through Kerr County, Texas killing more than a hundred people.

Now, after unimaginable tragedy, residents are coming together to help each other move forward.

NPR's Juana Summers and producers Erika Ryan and Tyler Bartlam visited the City West Church, which has transformed from a house of worship into a pop up food distribution site serving thousands of meals to the community and first responders.

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CBS News Roundup - 07/09/2025 | World News Roundup Late Edition

Officials in flood-ravaged central Texas tell people to stay away so they can continue search and rescue efforts. President Trump says a Gaza cease fire deal could come soon. Measles cases cases at a 30-year high. CBS News Correspondent Jennifer Keiper with tonight's World News Roundup.

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PBS News Hour - World - Gaza family documents their desperate search for food in a barren landscape

A senior Israeli official predicts Israel and Hamas will come to a ceasefire in the "next week or two," a longer timeframe than previously expected. Until a ceasefire can be reached, fighting goes on and Israel continues its airstrikes. Nick Schifrin reports on what Gazans are enduring on an average day to try and find food and where some still see a measure of hope. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders