The Gist - We Have FedEx’d Our Pandas Back To China

China recalls its pandas, and Americans bid them a tearful adieu. If only we could form such a tight bond with the Uyghurs. We are also joined by Dr. Jonathan Howard, author of We Want Them Infected: How the failed quest for herd immunity led doctors to embrace the anti-vaccine movement and blinded Americans to the threat of COVID, to discuss the concept of herd immunity. Then we turn to yesterday's GOP debate, where shooting people was proposed as a U.S. policy for immigration.

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The Gist - Beaten To Protect Democracy

Aquilino Gonell was a Capitol Hill Police Officer who, on January 6th, was beset upon by an angry mob then all but abandoned by officialdom in the aftermath. He's out with his story in a new book, American Shield: The Immigrant Sergeant Who Defended Democracy. Plus, election day shows the U.S. wants their rights, but not a revolution. And Donald Trump actually is doing much better than predicted with black Voters. Could it be the mug shot?


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The Gist - A Moderate Party’s Immoderate Self Perception

John Judis and Ruy Teixiera drop by to answer the question posed in the title of their new book Where Have All the Democrats Gone? Their warning is that the more Dems tack left, the more likely the only constituency left will be "the left." Plus, the guilty plea of a mass shooter's father. And the meaning imparted in the misreported presence of beheaded babies in Israel.


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The Gist - Fleeing North Korea

Soyeon Lee fled North Korea, was caught, was jailed, was beaten, then fled again. We will talk to her, and the documentarian Madeleine Gavin, about the new film Beyond Utopia, which includes surreptitiously recorded video of dangerous escape attempts. Plus, Joe Biden trails Trump everywhere that counts. Is the "people will figure out Trump is worse" strategy the best strategy? And protesters attack a seventeenth-century oil painting, because they hate paintings. No, wait, it's that they hate oil. Both are equally sensible.


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The Gist - BEST OF THE GIST: Fentanyl Edition

A new Netflix film, Pain Hustlers, starring Emily Blunt and Chris Evans, is getting a lot of buzz, so we dug into the archives to unearth an interview with Evan Hughes from February 2022. Hughes is author of Hard Sell: Crime and Punishment at an Opioid Startup, about his coverage of an out-of-control drug maker that destroyed lives and paid a price for doing so, which was the inspiration for the film. Then we check out a podcast extra with Greg Lukianoff, President of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression. Greg was on the show this past week discussing his new book, The Canceling of the American Mind: Cancel Culture Undermines Trust, Destroys Institutions, and Threatens Us All—but There Is a Solution

Check out Mike’s recent appearance on the Smoke ‘Em If You Got ‘Em podcast. 

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The Gist - Dalmatian Bumps, The Cuckoo’s Nest Effect, and Heists Adjusted For Inflation

Walt Hickey is a Pulitzer Prize-winning data journalist and also a real pop-culture-impersonated peruser. His new book is You Are What You Watch, How Movies and TV Affect Everything, and he makes a good case. Plus, when it comes to cease fires, casualties, and rules of engagement in Gaza, meanings are fluid. 

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The Gist - The Principled Never Tern A Blind Eye

What do George Santo, the Stellar's Jay, Donald Trump, the Anna Hummingbird, Adam Kinzinger, and the Cooper's Hawk all have in common? Yes, they are all in the news today. Yes, they are all on the show today. But their common connection, as far as we're concerned, is that their fates were governed by principles. Tune in to learn how.


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The Gist - Geese Buffalo Sensors, Prisoners On The Lam

In Philadelphia, an after-action report on the prisoners who escaped a city jail, despite the best efforts of napping and non-fence-repairing guards. Plus, the difference between an odious threat and an actual chant. And we're joined by Laura Meckler, author of Dream Town: Shaker Heights and the Quest for Racial Equity, about the Ohio suburb that tried and tried ... and still tries ... to get the thorniest question in American Education right.


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The Gist - When Intellectual Rigor Is No Longer De Rigueur

Greg Lukianoff, President of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, returns to continue our discussion about his new book, The Canceling of the American Mind: Cancel Culture Undermines Trust, Destroys Institutions, and Threatens Us All—but There Is a Solution. Plus, how much has changed in the degree to which Joe Biden backs Israel. And Dean Phillips is a Presidential candidate for Halloween! How cute.

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The Gist - Counting On Hamas For A Count

President Biden is pretty suspicious about official counts emanating from the Hamas-controlled health ministry in Gaza. News outlets aren't squelching those figures, but they are labelling the agency the "Hamas-controlled health ministry." And Greg Lukianoff, President of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, discusses his new book, The Canceling of the American Mind: Cancel Culture Undermines Trust, Destroys Institutions, and Threatens Us All—but There Is a Solution. Plus, a made man who didn't sock away sufficient savings from the Lufthansa Heist.


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