The Gist - Katie Herzog Is the Kind of Person Who Googles Recidivism Rates in an AA Meeting

Katie Herzog breaks down Drink Your Way Sober: The Science-Based Method to Break Free from Alcohol and how naltrexone—used through the Sinclair Method—let her "drink" her way out of addiction after years of half-hearted AA attempts. She explains why rock bottom kept moving, why abstinence felt impossible, and how targeted medication can disrupt the endorphin loop that makes alcohol so compulsive. Plus: the laser focus on the magic word "affordability," and a Spiel about Michael Wolff's Epstein posturing.

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The Gist - Not Even Mad: Charles Lehman & Brad Carson

The Epstein files and the Michael Wolff ethics mess. Then Brad Carson (Americans for Responsible Innovation) and Charles Lehman (Manhattan Institute / City Journal) dig into the shutdown endgame, Schumer's calculus, 2026 vibes, and why data centers might be a sleeper issue. They argue affordability vs. "afford to dream," culture vs. policy, and whether legalization waves for pot, NIL, and sports betting were built to fail. Plus: AI guardrails, why adding friction to vices works, and Goat Grinders on EST vs. EDT, reclining your plane seat, and off-leash dogs. Bonus Q&A about Brad's Senate race in the Not Even Mad feed.

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The Gist - John J. Lennon — “I’m Owning My Sh*t on the Page”

John J. Lennon, currently incarcerated at Sing Sing Correctional Facility, discusses The Tragedy of True Crime: Four Guilty Men and the Stories That Define Us, arguing that true crime's fixation on innocence obscures the harder stories of guilt, punishment, and change. He describes refusing to be branded "Inside Evil" on Chris Cuomo's show—and how that exploitation pushed him toward critiquing the genre from within. Lennon explains why he writes himself beneath the other men he profiles—even as he's "owning [his] sh*t on the page" so he can have a life when he gets out. Also: an analysis of the odd-bedfellows coalition pushing to force a House vote on releasing the Epstein case files.

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The Gist - Jon Levy: “We Don’t Really Want Authenticity”

Behavioral scientist Jon Levy, author of Team Intelligence: How Brilliant Leaders Unlock Collective Genius, joins to talk about why he collects astronauts, Olympians, and other outliers for secret salons—and what they've taught him about trust and connection. He explains why status isn't the same as popularity, how our networks quietly determine our habits and fortunes, and why so-called "authentic" leaders are really just people who match our prewritten narratives. Plus, a Spiel on a government shutdown that changed very little in the real world beyond making everyone mad at Washington and Democrats mad at each other. Also: the "Bono, Lead Singer of U2 Disorder," museum "wayfinding," and one New York Times rice recipe that produced enough leftovers to feed six FTEs.

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The Gist - Sarah Goodyear and Doug Gordon on Life After Cars

Mike reflects on the post-election landscape, including Mamdani's win and the hype around Trump's election monitors who reportedly spent their time chatting about cats. Then Mike talks with Sarah Goodyear and Doug Gordon, hosts of The War on Cars and authors of Life After Cars. They discuss traffic fatalities, Dutch street design, the Brightline conundrum, induced demand, EV optimism vs. EV limitations, and what cities gain when they take traffic out of their cores. In the Spiel, Mike explains why expecting a state's congressional delegation to mirror its statewide vote share misunderstands how probability works, using the now-classic gumball example.

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The Gist - The Good Fight Club, or Good Fight Club?

Mike joins Yascha Mounk's Good Fight Club to debate the mid-midterm results: Democrats' surprisingly strong showings in Virginia and New Jersey, Zoran Mamdani's charisma-vs-governance problem in New York, and whether moderates like Abigail Spanberger can still carry a national coalition. Also: the Seattle mayoral race tightens, and the "Dems in disarray" narrative hits a wall.

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The Gist - Funny You Should Mention: Dusty Slay

Dusty Slay drops by with "Wet Heat" fresh on Netflix to talk Opelika lore (a.k.a. Snopalika), becoming parade Grand Marshal, and how a onetime pesticide salesman turned country-music linguist builds jokes from tiny word quirks. We get into his love of language (Carlin vibes), song-lyric autopsies ("It's Five O'Clock Somewhere," Brooks & Dunn's "Hard Workin' Man"), the origin of "We're having a good time," Comedy Cellar war stories, Opry nights, accent drift, trailer-park childhood, and why he's plotting an ASMR sleep-comedy album. Also: milk, hand-washing, and the eternal mystery of gas stations named "Kum & Go."

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The Gist - Sadie Dingfelder on “Hair, Feathers, and the Theater of Disgust.”

We test whether a hair in your hummus is truly hazardous, compare bacterial counts on hair shafts vs. feathers, and trace America's hairnet obsession back to Edward Bernays' spin. We play: Is That BS? Hair/Feather Edition. Also: Seattle mayoral race updates, and in the Spiel: the Philadelphia Art Museum's chunky griffin rebrand, the PHAM backlash, and why the director got bounced.

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The Gist - Colin Woodard: The Federation Is the Fault Line

Woodard maps America's clashing "nations," from American Nations to Nations Apart, arguing that our deepest divides are regional and newly combustible. He makes the case that post–Cold War policy, social media, and a fraying social contract turned long-standing cultural seams into political fracture zones. We press whether his framework explains why now more than past crises. Plus: a quick read of the 11/5 results — Democratic gains in New Jersey and Virginia, Maine's voter-ID rejection, a Georgia PSC flip, and late counts in Minneapolis and Seattle.

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The Gist - The Wars Trump Says He Ended, and the One Cheney Began

The veteran media strategist reflects on Chuck Schumer's once-golden Sunday pressers and how his "price-of-milk politics" model needs updating for 2025. He discusses New York Democrats' strategic silence in the Mamdani race, Hillary Clinton's 2000 outreach to Hasidic women, and why he can praise Trump's Middle East diplomacy without voting for him. Plus, an inquiry into which seven wars Trump claims to have ended, including the murky Kosovo-Serbia "peace," and the legacy of Dick Cheney, measured against the one war he chose to start. Produced by Corey Wara

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