What Next | Daily News and Analysis - He Says Gaza Is a Genocide

What does it change to call Israel’s assault on Gaza a “genocide”?

Guest:  Omer Bartov, Dean's Professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies at Brown University and author of the op-ed, “I’m a Genocide Scholar. I Know It When I See It.

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The Need to Forget” by Yehuda Elkana

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What Next | Daily News and Analysis - How Dead Is the Department of Education?

If Trump follows through and successfully shuts down the Department of Education, what does America stand to lose? 

Guest:  Laura Meckler, national education writer for The Washington Post and author of Dream Town: Shaker Heights and the Quest for Racial Equity.

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What Next | Daily News and Analysis - On Epstein, Democrats Go Low

Why the Epstein scandal—more than any of Trump’s other, lengthy list of scandals—is so damaging that even the Democrats can wield it effectively.  

Guest:  Brian Beutler, author of the Substack “Off Message,” cohost of the podcast Politix.

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What Next | Daily News and Analysis - Getting Anti-Vaxxers To Roll Up Their Sleeves

Their son was immunocompromised and couldn’t get the measles vaccines. So his dad asked if everyone going to his school would get vaccinated. 

And the thing is—people listened.

Guest:  Carl and Rhett Krawitt

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What Next | Daily News and Analysis - TBD | When Bots Go Nazi

It’s kind of strange that Grok, Elon Musk’s chatbot, went full Nazi a few weeks ago, and is just…still out there. But, then again, how are you supposed to hold an LLM accountable?

Guest: Drew Harwell, technology reporter for the Washington Post


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Slate Books - Gabfest Reads | A Beach Read for the Outraged

David Plotz talks with author Carl Hiaasen about his new book, Fever BeachFever Beach is a political satire that follows a couple of dimwitted white supremacists, a corrupt congressman, and the people that try to take them all down. They discuss the real-life racist event Hiaasen witnessed that inspired a central scene in the novel, how Matt Gaetz factors into the book, Hiaasen’s next moves, and more.

 

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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - How To Build A Police State (With The Supreme Court’s Blessing)

Over the last six months, life has been upended for  millions of people in America as Stephen Miller's extreme immigration policies have been unleashed. And while the first weeks of the second Trump administration saw some genuine pushback from the Supreme  Court, six months in, that feint at checking and balancing has fallen away. On this week's Amicus podcast, Dahlia Lithwick welcomes Aaron Reichlin Melnick, Senior Fellow at the American Immigration Council. Reichlin Melnick last appeared on the show in the days after Trump's inauguration and the initial barrage of lawless Executive Orders targeting the immigration system and the millions caught in it. Half a year into Trump 2.0, and Stephen Miller's no-holds-barred anti-immigrant plan for America, what's stuck? What's accelerated? And in light of the new budget, what's next?


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What Next | Daily News and Analysis - Bonus: A Muslim, a Dad, an American

In this political moment where hostility towards immigrants and outsiders is openly espoused, one of our own colleagues has released a book about growing up as a Muslim-American in the post-9/11 era—and raising his own kids now.

Guest: Aymann Ismail, Slate staff writer and author of “Becoming Baba: Fatherhood, Faith, and Finding Meaning in America.”

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What Next - What Next | Daily News and Analysis – Bonus: A Muslim, a Dad, an American

In this political moment where hostility towards immigrants and outsiders is openly espoused, one of our own colleagues has released a book about growing up as a Muslim-American in the post-9/11 era—and raising his own kids now.

Guest: Aymann Ismail, Slate staff writer and author of “Becoming Baba: Fatherhood, Faith, and Finding Meaning in America.”

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What Next | Daily News and Analysis - TBD | How The Epstein Files Blew Up MAGAworld

The MAGA world has been waiting for Jeffrey Epstein’s client list to be released since the first Trump administration. But with those like Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, who stoked interest in the list literally in power, the administration is now saying that no such list exists. For some MAGA fans, this is finally a bridge too far. 

Guest: Anna Merlan, senior reporter at Mother Jones.

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Podcast production by Evan Campbell and Patrick Fort.

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