Time To Say Goodbye - Working-class unity with organizer JoAnn Lum; plus, listener Qs on the diversity labyrinth

HNY from the heart of Times Square!

0:00 – This week, we welcome JoAnn Lum, the director of NMASS (the National Mobilization Against Sweatshops), a “multi-trade, multi-ethnic workers center” located on the Lower East Side of Manhattan.

Though COVID-19 has recently shone a light on horrifying working conditions in healthcare, nursing homes, restaurants, and delivery, JoAnn describes how “essential workers” have faced steadily worsening prospects for decades, and relays her members’ disappointment in the government response.

She also talks about how immigration law has been used to divide workers, and explains NMASS’s “Ain’t I a Woman” campaign, which is challenging the 24-hour workday for home care attendants. (Tammy wrote about this around-the-clock work for Businessweek two years ago [a sobering read!].)

Unsurprisingly, the pandemic has only exacerbated the urgency of NMASS’s organizing. Learn more and contribute here!

34:30 – In the second half, we discuss a bundle of listener questions about “diversity:” employment initiatives, diversity statements, even children’s books! How do we navigate between “good” and “bad” versions of diversity? What are the right categories to describe them? 

Thanks to Adriana, Amy, and Helen for the excellent questions!

Keep your queries and comments coming! We’d love more recorded audio bits, too, which you can send by email: timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com. On Twitter, we’re doomscrolling at @TTSGpod.

Finally, pass the podcast onto your friends!



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Time To Say Goodbye - Scenes from the Culture War: Tommy Craggs

0:00 — We welcome friend of the show Tommy Craggs, enterprise editor at Mother Jones magazine. We first get Tommy’s thoughts on last summer’s inadvertent strike in the NBA and assess the future of our favorite beleaguered sports league.

25:10 — We discuss Tommy’s new piece, “What’s the Matter with Cultural Politics?,” in which he interrogates the “culture contra” stalemate: the idea that what the Democrats need to do is drop the “culture” and “identity” stuff and get back to (white) meat and potatoes.

Should we defend “woke” culture? How to distinguish between “good” (materialist) versus “bad” (coopted) identity politics? Can we even tell the difference?

Send us your comments and questions!

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Time To Say Goodbye - Lux magazine and lockdowns with Sarah Leonard

Today, Doctors Liu, Kang, and Kim are joined by Doctor Sarah Leonard, publisher of the soon-to-launch Lux magazine (named after socialist extraordinaire Rosa Luxemburg).

0:00 – We respond to accusations of COVID-19 denialism by comparing the US’s lockdown + welfare policies to those of the rest of the (Euro-American) world: Tammy on Canada’s robust wage subsidy and deficit spending; Andy on Sweden’s controversial decision to do voluntary lockdowns (even leftists are fighting over it); and Jay on the German advantage of strong infrastructure.

39:45 – Sarah talks about why she created Lux magazine, a socialist, feminist glossy! (Think: Marxist Vogue.) We discuss girl-boss corporate feminism, why there should be more than one socialist outlet, the virtues of social reproduction theory, and who deserves pleasure. Preview issue one here! Subscribe here

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Send audio questions and regular-old comments to timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com and @TTSGpod!



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Time To Say Goodbye - Filipino nurses and “Better Luck Tomorrow”

Hello from Neera Tanden’s shoe closet!

0:00 – The gang’s back together, with geographic and pandemic updates.

10:00 – Data recently compiled by National Nurses United tell us that nearly a quarter of registered nurses in the US who’ve died from the coronavirus are Filipino. Why this outsized fraction? Can histories of colonization and migration, as well as labor economics, help us make sense of the numbers?

49:07 – In the first of what we hope will become a recurring a segment, we talk about a classic Asian American film: Justin Lin’s “Better Luck Tomorrow.” Does it hold up? Why did Roger Ebert once defend it so vigorously? And how does it compare to Lin’s more famous franchise (“Fast and Furious”)? To “corny” immigrant literature?

Our next movie talk, a few weeks from now, will be on “Chan is Missing.” Watch along with us!

Thanks, as always, for listening and spreading the word. Please send feedback and audio questions to timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com or @ttsgpod.



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Time To Say Goodbye - The Asian American voter with Professor Taeku Lee

Hello!

This week we have another part of what can now be called a series on the AAPI voter with our guest Taeku Lee, a professor of law and political science at UC Berkeley and the author of several books, including Asian American Political Participation, which he co-authored with Janelle Wong, S. Karthick Ramakrishnan, and Jane Junn.

There’s few people more qualified to talk about the enigma of the Asian voter — Taeku has been researching and studying trends in voting since 1988 and was one of the first people to really study and then also generate polling information within AAPI communities. He has also been involved in the Asian American Voter Survey, which you probably saw on social media through this slide.

We talk about everything from the history of the Asian vote, the Reagan years in the 80s, the swing towards the Democratic party, the impact that geography has on voting patterns (for example, people who immigrate to Orange County, California or Florida will certainly trend more Republican than people who immigrate to New York City or the Bay Area because their neighbors are more GOP friendly), and how an immigrant, who generally arrives in the United States with a limited understanding of the country’s politics, develops into a voter.

Please give a listen!



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Time To Say Goodbye - Vaccine apartheid, tankies redux, and the TTSG manifesto

Happy birthday, Jay’s sister!

Tammy checks in from a motel in Kennewick, Jay remembers his lost novel, and we talk turkey. 

8:30 – On the global vaccine race. The “good” science (from Sarah Zhang), the “bad” vaccine apartheid (Jayati Ghosh, economist at JNU), Macbook vs. Chromebook, and the politics of glorifying private drug companies (as in the NYT).

Also, check out this cool new vaccine data center from Duke Global Health Innovation Center: https://launchandscalefaster.org/COVID-19

41:00 – A listener question from Kurt: Are tankies real or just an online phenomenon?

49:55 – Our first audio listener question! Listener Cody Wilson asks about Jay’s recent NYT op-ed / TTSG manifesto on the value of disaggregating “POC” communities, and offers an explanation for why the Rio Grande Valley went crazy for Trump in 2020 (cf. The Texas Tribune). 

Thanks for hanging with us. Have a safe, socially-distanced Thanksgiving, and send us your questions and comments! @TTSGPod / timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com



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Time To Say Goodbye - Asians are white again, pandemic rage, what to expect from Biden, and mega free trade

Hello from White House transition headquarters!

This week: literal housekeeping, “students of color” and “students of poverty,” coronavirus nightmares, how not to expect too much from Biden, and a Southeast Asian trade deal.

4:30 – Dads Jay and Andy review right-wing children’s books.

9:30 – Asians get lumped in as white again—this time, in the Thurston County, WA public schools. Why does this keep happening, and why do we care? Should the left abandon race-based sorting and affirmative action?

30:20 – The coronavirus is spiking all over the country. Why aren’t we talking about it more? Will Biden do better than Trump did?

38:45 – Student debt, the climate catastrophe, foreign policy, immigration, labor rights… What can we expect from Biden?

55:30 – Tammy’s “What you should know” corner: the ASEAN+5 Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP). Is it a big deal or not? How does it compare to the TPP and the CPTPP? And when will we Americans have the energy to start caring about stuff like this again? Plus: Jay promises to manage Tammy’s Fox News career.

Thank you for listening! Please spread the word, and stay in touch: @ttsgpod (Twitter) / timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com.



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Time To Say Goodbye - The history of Filipino DJ culture in the Bay Area with Oliver Wang

Hello,

Today we have something a bit different for you. TTSG goes a bit Melvyn Bragg with a history episode about Bay Area Filipino DJ culture. Our guest today is Oliver Wang, professor of sociology at Cal State Long Beach, one of the co-hosts of the Heat Rocks podcast, and the author of Legions of Boom, a fascinating book which tracks the history of Filipino immigrants into the Bay Area after the 1965 Hart-Celler Act — first into San Francisco and then out into suburbs like Daly City, Fremont, and Vallejo.

If you’ve ever wondered why so many of the top DJs in the word are Filipino and want to know the creation story behind legends like DJ QBert and the Invizibl Scratch Piklz, this is well worth your time. We discuss the mobile DJ scene in the 90s, the class dynamics of post-1965 Filipino immigrants versus the manongs who came over in the early 20th century and settled in San Francisco, and how music and a party scene can create a sense of cohesion and true identity.

Here’s some of the music these DJ crews created so you can play it as you listen along. Enjoy!

Spintronix Imagine #8

X-Men vs the Invizibl Skratch Piklz set in 1996

Generations: a 25 minute documentary about Spintronix and the mobile DJ scene.



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Time To Say Goodbye - National *phew* and your letters

Hello from a USPS mailbag!

This week, before getting into your letters, we reminisce about Saturday’s election news a.k.a the international dopamine-flood event. We “wow just wow” at the Democratic establishment’s (ridiculous and ridiculously premature) punch left, and swoon over AOC’s punch back in an interview with the New York Times. We also dissect a viral video of Tucker Carlson explaining why Butler, PA, and so many other places in the US (will) remain loyal to Trump.

Listener Questions

@irl_neil asks how “small business owners” fit into a broader progressive agenda. How should we confront the bootstraps values so popular with immigrant communities?

@hasui_SEA asks what the Biden administration might mean for the US–China Cold War-style tensions we often discuss on TTSG?

Listeners Henry and Cathy H. ask about the utility of the “Asian American” (or Asian Canadian) category from the perspective of South Asian and Southeast Asian immigrants.

M. asks about the racial landmines, circa 2020, that await her young hapa (mixed-race Asian) child.

Finally, Adriana and Ellen ask about the black–white binary in academia—within both the “diversity” bureaucracy complex and the ethnic-studies classroom.



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Time To Say Goodbye - The neverending election

Hello from Philly, Berkeley, and Missoula!

In this #2020 special, we share our jaundiced views of the U! S! A! and the election as of Wednesday night, 24 hours after polls closed. 

Discussed:

* Tuesday night’s emotional roller-coaster

* Post-vote explanations based on racial and ethnic checkboxes

* “Jay Kang, (G.O.P.) political consultant

* Propositions 22 and 16 in California

* Tammy’s feel-good corner a.k.a local measures to give us hope going forward

Links to stuff we mention:

* Exit polls (with the usual caveats) showing Trump’s gains with POC voters

* Jennifer Medina, of The New York Times, on the macho appeal of Donald Trump

* Aída Chávez, of The Intercept, with a pre-election look at Latino/a progressive organizing in Arizona, as well as her write-up on election night, with Ryan Grim

* Congratulations to TTSG friend Nikil Saval! He’s a progressive Democrat success story, the first Asian American member of the Pennsylvania State Senate, and we couldn’t be more proud! (ICYMI: our interview with Nikil)

How was Election Day/Night/Week for everyone else??? Terrible? Sleepless? Blasé? Send your comments, questions, and reactions to timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com or via DM @TTSGPOD!



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