What A Day - A Brief History of ICE

Immigration and Customs Enforcement isn't some storied government agency from the 19th century. ICE was invented back in 2003 — but now it has a multi-billion-dollar budget and many officers who are undertrained at best. So, how did we get here? To find out, we spoke to Garrett Graff. He's a historian and journalist who has covered federal law enforcement for 20 years.

And in headlines, President Donald Trump threatens fresh tariffs on America's NATO allies over Greenland, the Pentagon ordered 1,500 National Guard troops to prepare for possible deployment to Minnesota, and a seat on Trump's Board of Peace reportedly has a $1 billion price tag.

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What Next - Minnesota’s AG Will See ICE in Court

Attorney General Keith Ellison is one of the few top Minnesota officials not being investigated by the DOJ… yet. We ask him why, talk about charges for Jonathan Ross, and ask what it’ll take to get ICE out of Minneapolis. 


Guest: Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison


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What Next - ChatGPT, MD

Doctors are already using artificial intelligence to take notes while with patients—but are large language models ready to consult? 


Guest: Brittany Trang, health tech reporter for Stat News.


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More or Less - No, a study has not shown that the covid jab causes cancer

In Autumn 2025 a paper in South Korea was published that excited many a vaccine sceptic online. The paper claimed that receiving a vaccination against Covid19 was linked to a 27% increase in cancer risk.

However, when you dig into the data there is no evidence that the vaccine caused the cancer. We spoke to Professor Justin Fendos to explain why we cannot take this type of statistical analysis at face value.

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What Next - Bonus SchadenFriday: How a Lefty Journalist Stumbled Into an ICE Job

She just wanted to report on an ICE recruiting session. She didn’t expect to get a job offer.


Guest: Laura Jedeed, journalist who wrote “You’ve Heard About Who ICE Is Recruiting. The Truth Is Far Worse. I’m the Proof” for Slate.


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What A Day - How We Got Here: The MAGA New Right

President Trump is declining in popularity with voters, but his rhetoric and that of the Trump Administration is only growing more extreme. But to understand how we got here, in this place, we have to go back to the 1980s — when right-wing academics and thinkers worked together to create a counter-revolution to mainstream conservative institutions. For more, we spoke to writer and political theorist Laura K. Field. She wrote a book on the modern conservative movement titled “Furious Minds: The Making of the MAGA New Right.”

And in headlines, the President reveals his “Great Healthcare Plan,” Nobel Peace Prize winner María Corina Machado gives her medal to Trump, and billions of dollars for mental health and addiction organizations are restored just 24 hours after the Trump administration initially pulled them.

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What Next - How and Why to Vaccinate Now

Where do you turn for vaccination advice for your kids—or yourself—when the government’s own recommendations can’t be trusted anymore?


Guest: Dr. Lauren Hughes, board-certified pediatrician, science communicator, and author of “The Public Hughesletter.”


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The Indicator from Planet Money - ICE influencers, a world-record trade surplus, and the moon goes nuclear

Welcome back to Indicators of the Week! Our weekly look at some of the most fascinating economic numbers from the news. 

On today’s episode: Influencers for ICE, China’s tremendous trade surplus, and America heads back to the moon. 

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What A Day - Can Minnesota Deport ICE?

The great city of Minneapolis is under siege by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and we have all seen the videos to prove it… which may be why the popularity of ICE has dropped like a rock over the last year, from +16 in January 2025 to -14 now, according to polling by YouGov. In short, a lot of Americans think what ICE is doing is bad, and they do not like it. But what can state and local authorities do about it? To find out, we spoke to Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison. Earlier this week, he filed a lawsuit against the Department of Homeland Security to stop the outsized immigration enforcement in his state.

And in headlines, a new law is bringing whole and 2% milk back into schools, the Israel-Gaza ceasefire enters a critical next phase, and the long-anticipated talks between the U.S., Greenland and Denmark basically go nowhere.

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