Time To Say Goodbye - Harper’s, Boba Bros, Korean Feminism, and the NBA bubble

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This week, we begin with a brief chat about (social) media “cancel culture,” based on an open letter recently published in Harper’s. We then discuss a workplace controversy at the Boba Guys chain; the suicide of the mayor of Seoul, Park Won-soon, and what his death means in the context of South Korean feminism, per Tammy’s reporting; and a telling exchange about the NBA’s rules of wokeness between Republican US Senator Josh Hawley and ESPN NBA reporter Adrian Wojnarowski.

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0:57 – What are the boundaries of “free speech” on the Internet and in the minds of media elites? Who has the power to cancel whom? 

7:29 – Why did the owners of Boba Guys go all out on “Black Lives Matter” while mistreating Black and Latinx employees, and what does their conduct reveal about Asian-American food culture? 

31:00 – Why have so many high-profile South Korean men escaped accountability for gender-based misconduct and violence? What are the contours of Korea’s #MeToo movement?

56:19 – Is it right for the NBA to host games in Orlando during the pandemic? Should we support “Free Woj” or does the other side have a point about league-sanctioned political slogans? Is it good when radical politics become safe enough to adopt by profit-driven corporations? (also Jay tries to remember what the CLS kritik said.)

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In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt - Bernie and Andy talk M4A (with Bernie Sanders)

Andy calls Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders to talk about M4A. Yes, they discuss Medicare For All but they also get into the Senator's new strategy for ending the pandemic: Masks For All. It's something the two of them have worked on together. Bernie also discusses the political dynamics within the Democratic Party and the Senate as a whole, along with how he and Vice President Biden are collaborating on major policies.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

Watch the aerosolization video Zach mentions in his Zach Fact: https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1281264040099094528

Here’s the new reusable, silicone rubber face mask Andy mentioned: http://news.mit.edu/2020/reusable-silicone-rubber-face-mask-0709


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The Gist - Biden His Time

On the Gist, renaming in Burlington, New Jersey.

In the first half of a two-part interview, novelist Curtis Sittenfeld is here to discuss Rodham, her new novel exploring an alternative history where Hillary Clinton never married Bill. She and Mike discuss the origins of the novel, how her skills aren’t in the public part of politics, and what it’s like to create such a fiction.

In the spiel, Joe Biden keeping quiet.

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Chapo Trap House - 436 – Consider the Lobster feat. David Roth (7/13/20)

David Roth’s back to help us continue examining the cursed aesthetics of Trump-world food, the ongoing COVID disaster, the eternal relevance of Starship Troopers, and the Beautiful Boaters. David’s Starship Troopers piece: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/how-starship-troopers-aligns-with-our-moment-of-american-defeat

The Gist - Uneducated Posturing

On the Gist, the Washington football team have more work ahead than they realize.

In the interview, Washington Post columnist Alexandra Petri joins Mike to chat about her recently published book Nothing Is Wrong and Here Is Why. A hand-picked anthology of her some of her best essays that are mockingly sharp, and unsettlingly cheerful, it showcases the satirist’s gleefully distorted take on our political and social realities. 

In the spiel, educational idiocy.

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Pod Save America - “Cold Stone Schemery.”

Roger Stone is rewarded for covering up Trump’s corruption with a commuted prison sentence, the White House orchestrates a hit job on Dr. Anthony Fauci for telling the truth about the pandemic, and Congress debates the next round of pandemic relief as the economy stalls. Then Pod Save the People’s Kaya Henderson talks to Jon Lovett about the debate over re-opening schools this fall.

In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt - Toolkit: Everything You Need to Know About Vaccines

It's the Monday Toolkit episode of In The Bubble that people have been waiting for. Today, Andy and Zach get answers to the most important questions we all have about vaccines from two of the world's foremost experts, Drs. Mark McClellan and David Agus. There is incredibly promising news and some news that is likely to be fairly surprising. You'll learn when we can expect to see a vaccine and how life will -- and won’t -- be different with a vaccine. 

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Check out these resources from today’s episode:

Check out the National Institute of Health’s new clinical trials network to test COVID-19 vaccines and other prevention tools: https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-launches-clinical-trials-network-test-covid-19-vaccines-other-prevention-tools


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The Gist - Usain Bolt’s Greatness Code

On the Gist, Trump’s bullying worked.

In the interview, Olympic champion Usain Bolt is here to talk with Mike about the new documentary series Greatness Code on Apple TV+. They discuss Bolt’s love of the 200 meter race, training, and how he might feel when people start coming for his record. All episodes of Greatness Code are available to stream now on Apple TV+.

In the spiel, the parent-teacher mob.

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Pod Save America - That’s the Ticket Episode 3: The Decision

On the third, and final, installment of That's the Ticket, Dan and Alyssa talk about what factors a candidate has to consider once they've vetted potential VPs, how the vice presidential announcement process has evolved over time, and finally who they think Biden will pick. Dan also talks to Perry Bacon Jr., a senior writer from FiveThirtyEight, about what polling does and doesn't tell us about the impact of a VP pick.

The Gist - Guns Make Everything Worse

On the Gist, guns in the U.K. and the U.S.

In the interview, we share part two of our conversation with Barry Friedman, founder of the Policing Project at NYU Law, author and legal scholar. Friedman suggests that a hurdle to creating new policies and training is the lack of accountability and uniform data gathering processes provided from police departments around the country. The central idea to the project is how to create good police departments.

In the spiel, J.K. Rowling.

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