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Today, we have on Alex Thompson, co-author of the new book “Original Sin: President Biden’s Decline, It’s Cover-Up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again” and all the reasons Joe Biden decided to run for President in 2024, what happened on that debate stage, how a small group of aides working for Joe and Jill Biden kept everyone in line, or, more commonly, walled off from the President, and how it all fell apart. This is a juicy episode and we all recommend you read the book and Tyler’s essay on it.
The media efforts to make Americans oppose Trump's anti-illegal efforts are running straight into the buzzsaw of common sense. So too with efforts to portray the distribution of food aid in Gaza. Give a listen.
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The Trump administration on Tuesday bypassed the traditional system of vaccine guidance and abruptly ended the government’s recommendation that two key groups of Americans receive vaccinations against Covid.
Apoorva Mandavilli, a science and global health reporter at The New York Times, discusses what could be a turning point in public health.
Guest: Apoorva Mandavilli, a science and global health reporter at The New York Times.
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Steve Bannon famously talked about using “muzzle velocity” as a strategy: doing so much so quickly that you overwhelm the ability of the media to cover it. I think what the Trump family is doing with crypto is muzzle velocity for corruption.
What they’re doing isn’t necessarily illegal. It would be if these were official campaign donations; the sums involved are so large, and the buyers include foreign nationals. But the Trump family is making this money personally. And they’re doing it across so many different crypto ventures, it’s almost impossible to keep track.
So that’s what I wanted to do with this episode: try to track at least some of it.
The person I’ve enlisted to help me out is Zeke Faux. He’s the author of the fantastic book “Number Go Up: Inside Crypto’s Wild Rise and Staggering Fall” and an investigative reporter at Bloomberg, where he’s been covering many of these strange Trump family crypto schemes.
This episode contains strong language.
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“Trump Crypto Venture Has Talked to Binance About Doing Business” by Zeke Faux
Book Recommendations:
A Distant Mirror by Barbara W. Tuchman
Nixonland by Rick Perlstein
Gretel and the Great War by Adam Sachs
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On this episode: The terror attack at the Capital Jewish Museum, Trump weighs in on Putin and floats (then delays) EU tariffs, and Democrats scramble to reconnect with the voters they’ve long ignored—so, basically everyone. Tune in!
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14:48 - Capital Jewish Museum
30:52 - Trump news
49:55 - Dems in disarray
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The word "bureaucracy" may evoke red tape and DMV lines, but many groundbreaking scientific and health innovations have come from government research institutes. In this episode, host Jason Lloyd talks with University of Virginia professor Natalie Aviles about her new book An Ungovernable Foe and how the National Cancer Institute’s unique mission and culture have empowered its scientist-bureaucrats to lead pioneering cancer research, including the development of the HPV vaccine.
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Manvir Singh, author of Shamanism: The Timeless Religion, shares insights from a decade with Indonesia’s Mentawai people, where healing rituals double as communal celebrations. He discusses how language and metaphor shape worldviews—and where anthropology sits between science and ideology. The U.S. Mint’s final penny order closes the chapter on a coin long derided as economic dead weight. And five years after George Floyd’s murder, polling shows confidence in police—especially among Black Americans—has rebounded, despite minimal national reform and maximal narrative distortion.
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