Time To Say Goodbye - Korean wig stores, with Jenny Wang Medina; and Hunger Games in Thailand

Welcome to the Terrordome!

This week, we have a brilliant guest, TTSG pal and Korean literature scholar Jenny Wang Medina, who grew up in her family’s beauty-supply store, to guide us through a mini-PhD on Korean hair, the Black hair market, and Cold War commodity history. Then, a brief look at the ongoing democratic uprising in Thailand.

0:00 – HAIR! * The New York Times’s coverage of the Na family and their Black hair shops in Chicago, one of which was destroyed in the recent Black Lives Matter uprising, launches us into an exploration of harvested hair, nation building, migration, and race relations, from Hong Kong and South Korea to India and Sacramento, CA, where Jenny’s brother now runs her parents’ 40-year-old wig-turned-beauty-supply stores. To enrich our discussion, we draw on a very sharp “commodity history” of Korean hair, by Jenny and Andy’s friend, Jason Petrulis.

How did Jenny’s family, and so many other Korean immigrants, come to dominate hair and beauty-supply markets for Black American women? And how does the intimate nature of hair and beauty products shape race relations?

What role have hair exports played in the developmental economics of Hong Kong, South Korea, and, more recently, India and Indonesia? How did US Cold War policy shape these markets?

1:14:30 – THAILAND! * In a new segment called “Something you should know,” a.k.a. “What Tammy forced Jay and Andy to talk about,” we bring you an update from Thailand, where a democracy movement that began in 2014, after a military coup, has recently exploded on the streets.

We discuss the aims and culture of these Thai protests, the nature of Thailand’s (ostensibly) constitutional monarchy, the economic effect of the pandemic on the nation’s tourist economy, how the current prime minister and monarch are different from those who ruled a decade ago, and the Milk Tea Alliance—the pro-democracy bonds among Thai, Hong Kong, and Taiwanese youth online. (Thanks to TTSG friends Reena and Nick for their insights.)

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Chapo Trap House - 464 – Live MAS (10/19/20)

To start off, you know we gotta talk some Toob’. Then it’s on to the resounding victory of Evo Morales and Luis Arce’s MAS party in the do-over Bolivian election following last year’s coup. This dovetails nicely into a story about Trump blowing off the intelligence briefings for milkshakes, which brings us to wonder what horrors might return to the intelligence agencies under a slightly-more-competant Biden administration. Finally we take a look at California’s prop 22, regarding classifying gig-based workers as employees. Let’s get one last big push for Nithya Raman for LA City Council: https://www.nithyaforthecity.com/

The Gist - Calling It: Steve Kornacki and Brian Stelter

On the Gist, we’re launching a week-long focus on election night and how different news organizations handle making the winning calls.

In the interviews, Mike talks with NBC News’ national political correspondent Steve Kornacki about his network’s decision desk, their processes in tabulation, and how they will be closely monitoring the votes coming in days after Tuesday, November 3. Kornacki is the author of The Red and the Blue.

Then, Mike speaks with CNN’s Brian Stelter about CNN’s plan for coverage, and the outsized role that Fox News represents and his predictions for their election day narrative. Stelter is the author of Hoax: Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth.

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The Commentary Magazine Podcast - Have Americans Always Been Crazy?

The podcast today takes up the subject of liberal panic that they are being lulled into a false sense of security by the polling suggesting a big Biden win before we discuss the American obsession with conspiracy theories and ask the question: Has it ever been thus? Have we always loved nutso ideas? Give a listen.

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Start the Week - Fake news and data lies: how to win an election

Fake news, conspiracy theories, and weaponising data to influence elections are all aspects of contemporary politics. But Amol Rajan explores their historical roots with two eminent historians, Jill Lepore and Sir Richard Evans.

Decades before Silicon Valley tech companies had access to our personal information, The Simulmatics Corporation was dealing in the weaponisation of data. In her latest book, If Then – How One Data Company Invented the Future, Jill Lepore looks back at how algorithms that were supposedly able to forecast and influence human behaviour gained huge currency in the 1960s, and what happens when they were allowed to develop unchecked.

Sir Richard Evans is one of the world’s leading authorities on Nazi Germany. In The Hitler Conspiracies: The Third Reich and the Paranoid Imagination, Evans investigates key conspiracy theories that flourished at the time and still continue to arouse debate. Through painstaking research and evidence-based argument he reasserts the boundary between truth and fiction, and looks at why fake news takes hold.

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In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt - How Will the Election and Aftermath Go? (with Rahm Emanuel)

Who will win? How is it likely to happen? What matters in the last two weeks? What would a contested election and a transition look like? And how would that affect the management of the pandemic? Andy calls the one political expert who can help answer these questions: Rahm Emanuel, the former mayor of Chicago and President Obama's first chief of staff. Hear the inside baseball and see who needs a hug after this. 

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The Gist - Masking Over Truth

On the Gist, the price of corn.

In the interview, former senior strategist for the NRA Joshua L. Powell is back for the second half of his conversation with Mike. They run down a series of NRA opinions and he and Mike go back and forth about how much NRA members believe things like “the only solution to a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” and whether we should own AR-15s. Powell’s book is Inside the NRA: A Tell-All Account of Corruption, Greed, and Paranoia within the Most Powerful Political Group in America.

In the spiel, dueling town halls.

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