Category: 9-NotNowMaybeSomeday

Warning: This episode contains graphic, accurate descriptions of unclean actions, and may not be appropriate for all listeners.

In 1981 and 1982, an horrific series of murders and mutilation gripped Chicago. Ultimately, investigators found four men guilty of the crimes: Edward Spreitzer, brothers Andrew and Thomas Kokoraleis, and the alleged ringleader, Robin Gecht. However, as Ben, Matt and Dylan discover in tonight's episode, three of the criminals seemed unable to explain what, exactly, led to their depraved acts. Gecht, they argued, had supernatural powers of compulsion.

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Once again, I want to open with "I'm sorry" for all of this. If you're considering condemning us to content creator hell for our takes, first consider the question: What Would Charlie Do? Charlie would say, despite our worst takes, we are still redeemable! So, we're doing the first two seasons of Hazbin Hotel and doing a 200 level discussion on universalism about salvation and why it may be the best option for believers but it's still a legitimizing myth. Please don't hate us!

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The gang covers the arrest of a J6 bomber suspect, the shooting of National Guard troops in DC and the following immigration crackdown, repeated airstrikes targeting survivors of alleged smuggling boats, a Turning Point campaign against a trans college instructor, and online gambling sites partnering with news agencies.

Sources:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/04/business/economy/trump-north-american-trade-deal.html

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/trump-tariffs-live-updates-us-may-exit-usmca-next-year-trump-meets-nvidias-huang-to-talk-ai-chip-curbs-231853198.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/03/business/supreme-court-tariff-ruling-refunds.html

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-deepens-tariff-cut-brazilian-224041283.html

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/violent-crime

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/violent-crime

https://data.cityofnewyork.us/Public-Safety/NYPD-Complaint-Data-Current-Year-To-Date-/5uac-w243/about_data

https://compstat.nypdonline.org/ 

https://www.ilrc.org/sites/default/files/2023-12/Particularly%20Serious%20Crimes%20Advisory_Dec%202023.pdf 

https://www.nycbar.org/press-releases/mayor-eric-adamss-threats-to-new-york-as-a-sanctuary-city/#_ftn3 

https://codelibrary.amlegal.com/codes/newyorkcity/latest/NYCadmin/0-0-0-5445 

https://media.defense.gov/2023/Jul/31/2003271432/-1/-1/0/DOD-LAW-OF-WAR-MANUAL-JUNE-2015-UPDATED-JULY%202023.PDF 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckglx77mplgo 

https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/analysis/2025/11/28/us-suspends-visas-in-depth-look-global-afghanistan-refugee-crisis 

https://www.hrw.org/report/2019/10/31/theyve-shot-many/abusive-night-raids-cia-backed-afghan-strike-forces 

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/policy-alerts/PM-602-0192-PendingApplicationsHighRiskCountries-20251202.pdf 

https://www.cato.org/blog/fbis-crosshairs-socialist-rifle-association 

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/06/10/2025-10669/restricting-the-entry-of-foreign-nationals-to-protect-the-united-states-from-foreign-terrorists-and 

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115625429081411360 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-administration-orders-enhanced-vetting-applicants-h-1b-visa-2025-12-04/ 

https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/temporary-protected-status/temporary-protected-status-designated-country-somalia 

https://x.com/ReichlinMelnick/status/1992048335876772353 

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1254a&num=0&edition=prelim 

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/search?conditions%5Bsearch_type_id%5D=3&conditions%5Bterm%5D=TPS+somali&order=newest 

https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/department-interior-announces-modernized-more-affordable-national-park-access 

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edtx/pr/north-texas-men-indicted-eastern-district-texas-international-murderkidnapping-scheme 

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/airman-texas-haiti-coup-plot/

https://nypost.com/2025/12/04/us-news/fbi-makes-arrest-in-jan-6-pipe-bomb-investigation-after-nearly-5-years/

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/afghan-national-charged-murder-national-guard-soldier-sarah-beckstrom

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/lakanwal-national-guard-shooting-mpd-detectice-affidavit.pdf

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/04/us/rahmanullah-lakanwal-national-guard-shooting-dc.html

https://www.nyc.gov/assets/immigrants/downloads/pdf/nyc-detainer-laws.pdf

https://time.com/7337578/ice-raid-new-york-mamdani/ 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Dvs1d2mlFUostowEZzfr0CoCrbUQw99a/view 

https://www.nyc.gov/assets/doi/reports/pdf/2025/38DOC.Release.Rpt.09.25.2025.pdf 

https://www.instagram.com/p/DRj_NZHjeRK/?hl=en&img_index=

https://x.com/UofOklahoma/status/1995186884704690262?s=20 

https://news.kalshi.com/p/kalshi-cnn-prediction-market-partnership 

https://www.businessinsider.com/kalshi-cnbc-deal-cnn-data-integration-partnership-2025-12

https://x.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1978469463415755117

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Hidalgo, Jimothy and Pure prompt Ben, Matt and Dylan to dive even deeper into the bizarre world of hidden structures underground -- including bunkers and top-secret missile siloes, just waiting for that launch command. Pastor Banks reaches out with a deep conversation about the nature of the soul, and Calamity Chris confirms the ancient folklore of dragon's teeth. All this and more in this week's listener mail segment.

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In this episode, Rivers and Sam are hangin' out at Disgraceland Studios with our ol' pal and the pride of Lookout Mountain, comedian John-Michael Bond! We kick this one off by downing a reality TV couple's very coconutty energy drink. Then we talk about some of the most morally dubious reality TV shows of all time. After that, we sample a bit of the U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary's erotic poetry. Plus, our big dumb president is making his Hollywood dreams come true in reuniting the whole gang from the film Rush Hour. John-Michael takes us on a tour of his hometown of Chattanooga, TN, and Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody" is our JAM OF THE WEEK! Give us a listen, folks! Follow John-Michael Bond on Instagram @JohnMichaelsMistakes Follow the show on social media @TheGoodsPod. Rivers is @RiversLangley Sam is @SlamHarter Carter is @Carter_Glascock Subscribe on Patreon for UNCUT video versions of the podcast as well as TONS of bonus content! http://patreon.com/TheGoodsPod Pick up a Goods from the Woods t-shirt here: http://prowrestlingtees.com/TheGoodsPod

In the final episode of a four part series, James talks about the need for mutual aid, and speaks to the family hosting Primrose now. 

Primrose’s Legal Aid Fundraiser: https://www.gofundme.com/f/immigration-lawyer-for-primrose

Sources:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/21/world/americas/trump-us-mexico-border.html

https://www.fresnobee.com/news/article299272524.html

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/woody-guthrie-deportee-song-immigrants-rare-recording-1235383582/

https://southkernsol.org/2024/09/30/marker-unveiled-at-1948-plane-crash-site-that-killed-28-mexican-passengers/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-orders/ 

http://www.toddmillerwriter.com/border-patrol-nation/ 

https://timzhernandez.com/all-they-will-call-you/ 

https://www.ice.gov/features/atd 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/04/us/ice-impersonators-on-the-rise-arrests-made-as-authorities-issue-national-warning 

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1225&num=0&edition=prelim

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