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Yes, there is an -ology for that. And yes, we’re airing this episode -– with a ton of 2025 updates -– because it’s never felt more relevant. Dr. Robert Proctor is a Stanford professor of the History of Science and co-edited the book “Agnotology: The Making & Unmaking of Ignorance,” having coined the word 30 years ago. We chat about everything from tobacco marketing, to the sugar lobby, to racial injustice, horse vision, the psychology of the Flat Earther movement, which countries have the highest rates of climate denial, empathy, how to navigate difficult conversations and why it's critical to dismantle the systems of willful ignorance, starting locally. 

Dr. Robert Proctor’s book: "Agnotology: The Making and Unmaking of Ignorance"

His 2021 book: Science and the Production of Ignorance: When the Quest for Knowledge Is Thwarted.

Donations in Dr. Proctor’s name went to: SavingBlackLives.org and the Public Health Advocacy Institute

An additional donation went to The National Black Law Students Association

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Garrison asks USC law professor Derek Black about attacks on the Department of Education and the dangers of expanding executive power.

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Have you ever felt as if somebody was watching, following or even stalking you? If so, you're not alone. Most people have, at some time or another, had an experience like this -- and, tragically, many people are physically stalked every year. Yet there's a strange twist to the tale: More and more people are claiming they're being stalked by a group of people -- a gang. Join Ben and Matt to learn more in this evening's Classic episode.

They don't want you to read our book.: https://static.macmillan.com/static/fib/stuff-you-should-read/

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Elon Musk is trying to become the CEO of America. How did we get here? Garrison unravels a timeline of catastrophe. 

https://shatterzone.substack.com/p/how-the-federal-government-fell

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Unelected "special government employee" Elon Musk continues to lead an unprecedented flurry of changes and cuts to US institutions - supporters call it good budgeting; critics call it an attack on democracy. Rising egg prices lead to a massive heist, and Waffle House is charging a per-egg fee to diners. The Pentagon changes its media stance, Google lifts its long-standing ban on AI weaponry. Oh, and Zombie Spiders. All this and more in this week's strange news segment.

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The National Congress of American Indians annual winter conference comes as the federal government is actively dismantling the diversity initiatives that help establish Native representation in the workplace and in the public sphere. The nation’s oldest and largest Native advocacy group is shaping its strategy for carrying a unified voice to a fractured government and public on issues that matter most: sovereignty, consultation, environmental sustainability, the Trust Responsibility, and economic development. We’ll hear NCAI President Mark Macarro’s 2025 State of Indian Nations address and get perspectives on the organization’s coming year.

Mia and James discuss Trump's imperialist drive to take Canada, the Panama Canal, Gaza and Greenland and how it differs from previous versions of free trade American imperialism.

Sources:

https://escholarship.org/uc/item/0sg0782h

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-direct-action

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/07/politics/trump-expansion-ideas-what-matters/index.html

https://www.businesstoday.in/world/canada/story/make-them-pay-canada-puts-trumps-first-friend-elon-musks-tesla-in-the-crosshairs-of-tariff-war-463097-2025-02-01

https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.9669319

https://www.economia.gob.mx/datamexico/en/profile/product/motor-cars-and-other-vehicles-principally-designed-cars-for-transport-of-persons?redirect=true

https://www.economia.gob.mx/datamexico/en/profile/product/oils-of-petroleum-or-bituminous-minerals?redirect=true

https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-country/mex/partner/usa

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/01/michigan-poised-to-take-a-big-hit-under-trump-tariffs/78099053007/

https://www.ilscompany.com/products-imported-from-mexico/

https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/mexico-automotive-industry

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/31/trumps-25percent-tariffs-this-is-whats-at-stake-for-us-auto-industry.html

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/imports/mexico

https://www.businesstoday.in/world/canada/story/make-them-pay-canada-puts-trumps-first-friend-elon-musks-tesla-in-the-crosshairs-of-tariff-war-463097-2025-02-01

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/01/why-buy-greenland-trump-annex-ronald-lauder-manifest-destiny/

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Jathan sits down with Sunaura Taylor—author of Disabled Ecologies—in her lab at UC Berkeley to discuss her excellent work which brings together critical disability studies with enironmental justice. Against the backdrop of her research on toxic waste dumps, military industires, racial capitalism, injured communities, and social movements in Tuscon, AZ, we explore the “expansive webs of injury” that now entrap everybody, giving rise to what Sunaura calls the Age of Disability. ••• Disabled Ecologies: Lessons from a Wounded Desert | Sunaura Taylor https://www.ucpress.edu/books/disabled-ecologies ••• Beasts of Burden: Animal and Disability Liberation | Sunaura Taylor https://thenewpress.com/books/beasts-of-burden Standing Plugs: ••• Order Jathan’s new book: https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520398078/the-mechanic-and-the-luddite ••• Subscribe to Ed’s substack: https://substack.com/@thetechbubble ••• Subscribe to TMK on patreon for premium episodes: https://www.patreon.com/thismachinekills Hosted by Jathan Sadowski (bsky.app/profile/jathansadowski.com) and Edward Ongweso Jr. (www.x.com/bigblackjacobin). Production / Music by Jereme Brown (bsky.app/profile/jebr.bsky.social)

Margaret from the future relays a fateful battle in the forests of Catalonia.

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Quickie With Bob: Using Nukes to Deflect Asteroids; News Items: Near Earth Asteroid Threat, Does the Internet Affect Our Memory, Growing City Rat Problem, Do Apes Have a Theory of Mind, NASA Astronauts Harassed by Aliens; Who's That Noisy; Science or Fiction