Native America Calling - Tuesday, June 24, 2025 – Tribal cannabis operations both welcomed and scorned

Minnesota is the first state to sign compacts with tribes for cannabis operations. The White Earth Nation just opened that state’s first off-reservation recreational marijuana retail store. A second store is already in the works with the tribe envisioning as many as eight dispensaries statewide. But as some tribes lead the way with economic development potential for cannabis, some other tribes elsewhere are subject to law enforcement actions and regulatory hurdles. We’ll hear about both the success stories and dead ends for tribal cannabis operations.
GUESTS
Mary Jane Oatman (Nez Perce and Delaware), executive director of the Indigenous Cannabis Industry Association and founder of THC Magazine
Lester Marston (Cahuilla), attorney and tribal court judge
Blake Johnson (Dakota), president of Prairie Island CBH Inc.
Zach Wilson, CEO of Waabigwan Mashkiki LLC
Break 1 Music: Intertribal Song (song) Dakota Nation (artist) Home of the Champions (album)
Break 2 Music: The Wild One (song) Link Wray (artist)
Stuff They Don't Want You To Know - CLASSIC: What is ‘Skunkworks’?
For almost 80 years, Lockheed Martin has been working hand in hand with the US government to create cutting-edge, classified tech and craft, working in secret to build some of the world's most iconic spy planes. Nowadays, the so-called "Skunk Works" are more open about their projects ... or are they? Tune in to learn more.
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James and Andrew discuss different ways of splitting up the world, and what they tell us about the way their proponents see the world.
Sources/Links:
Rome: https://europe.factsanddetails.com/article/entry-1087.html
China: Rome, China, and the Barbarians Ethnographic Traditions and the Transformation of Empires by Randolph B. Ford
European Colonialism: https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt1mf71b8.7?seq=1
Edward Said - Orientalism
Benedict Anderson - Imagined Communities
John Lewis Gaddis - The Cold War: A New History Samuel Huntington - Clash of Civilisations
Immanuel Wallerstein - The Modern World System
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/elia-j-ayoub-the-periphery-has-no-time-for-binaries
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Things are heating up in the Middle East -- as the world studies a possible correlation between pizza orders and US military activity, the United States Air Force and Navy launch the largest B-2 operation in history, striking multiple sites in the nation of Iran. A curious trade group in Ghana protests a new tax regime. Over in Chicago, a long-serving legislator gets popped for frankly cartoonish levels of corruption. All this and more in this week's strange news segment.
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The other day was the 53rd anniversary of the break-in at the Watergate Hotel, which not only caused a lot of political uproar, it had a big linguistic legacy: the suffix -gate to mean a scandal. Today, as part of Four Letter Word season, we have a list of -gates - royal, sporting, political, food, showbiz - it's a non-exhaustive list because there are so many, and new ones are being spawned all the time. Content warning for all sorts of bad human behaviour.
At theallusionist.org/gate you'll find a transcript of this episode, plus links to more information about many of the -gates, and to the rest of Four Letter Word season.
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Good Bad Billionaire - Coming soon: Good Bad Dead Billionaire
We’re back – but with a difference! Find out how some of the world's most famous dead billionaires made their money. Meet five billionaires who helped build the United States of America. First up: oil tycoon John D Rockefeller, the world’s first billionaire. Simon Jack and Zing Tsjeng also revisit the lives of motor magnate Henry Ford, the aviator and filmmaker Howard Hughes, Walmart founder Sam Walton, and Hetty Green - once dubbed “The Witch of Wall Street”. These iconic billionaires may be dead, but their fingerprints are everywhere in modern industry - in business trusts, IPOs, and mass production. They did it all first, but how did they make their billions? Season 4 of Good Bad Dead billionaire starts on Monday 7 July 2025. And this season, we really want to know what you think - are they good, bad, or just another billionaire? Email goodbadbillionaire@bbc.co.uk or send a voice message or text to 001 917 686 1176. Don’t forget to leave your name. We might read your comments out.
Native America Calling - Monday, June 23, 2025 – Deb Haaland’s next chapter in public service

Deb Haaland’s (Laguna Pueblo) political star rose fast, from heading her state party to congresswoman to U.S. Secretary of the Interior. Each step of the way she blazed a trail for Native women. As the head of the agency that oversees Indian Affairs, Haaland championed a first-of-its-kind documentation of the U.S. Government’s role in the Indian Boarding School Era, drawing on both public records and first-hand testimony from survivors and their descendants. Now, she aims to become the first female Native American governor in her home state of New Mexico. We’ll hear from Haaland about her legacy as Interior Secretary and her hopes for the future.

The Grand Coulee Dam in Washington State. It’s one of the factors endangering salmon along the Columbia River. (Photo: Bureau of Reclamation via Flickr/CC)
We’ll also get perspectives on the historic agreement between the federal government and Northwest tribes to protect endangered salmon, and the equally historic decision by President Donald Trump to rescind that agreement. We’ll discuss what it means for salmon and the trust in the federal government.
GUESTS
Deb Haaland (Laguna Pueblo), former U.S. Secretary of the Interior
Erik Holt (Nez Perce), chairman of the Nez Perce Tribe Fish and Wildlife Commission
Jeremy Takala (Yakama), member of the Yakama Nation tribal council and the chair of the Columbia River Inter-Tribal Fish Commission
Break 1 Music: On the Road Missing Home (Corn Dance) (song) Sheldon Sundown (artist) Hand Drum/Smoke N’ Round Dance (album)
Break 2 Music: The Wild One (song) Link Wray (artist)
It Could Happen Here - A Medical Perspective On Protest Safety
In a rare ICHH and House of Pod Joint Episode, James is joined by Miriam, Kaveh, and Dr. Richard Ferro to discuss street medicine, police use of irritants and less-than-lethal weapons and how to keep each other safe.
Links:
https://lapdonlinestrgeacc.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/lapdonlinemedia/2021/12/Directive_17.1_40mm_Less_Lethal_Launcher_Oct-.pdf
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1310-live-like-the-world-is-dy-85677729/
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Margaret reads you two more stories about anticapitalism and religion.
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