This Machine Kills - 421. To AGI, or Not to AGI, That is the Question

With the announcement of a new $100 million Super PAC for pro-AI political influence, lines are being drawn between different styles of AI boosterism in Silicon Valley. There are those who worship at the altar of AGI and believe any other position is an intolerable impediment to innovation. There are those who want the tech sector to focus on using existing AI systems for everyday economic applications. And there are those who see AI as a techno-realpolitik power struggle over who is gonna kick whose ass: America or China? And then there’s Eric Schmidt, who holds all three positions — and writes op-eds touting each one — at the same exact time. ••• Silicon Valley Launches Pro-AI PACs to Defend Industry in Midterm Elections https://www.wsj.com/politics/silicon-valley-launches-pro-ai-pacs-to-defend-industry-in-midterm-elections-287905b3 ••• Silicon Valley Is Drifting Out of Touch With the Rest of America https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/19/opinion/artificial-general-intelligence-superintelligence.html ••• AI Could Usher In a New Renaissance https://www.wsj.com/opinion/agi-could-usher-in-a-new-renaissance-physics-math-econ-advancement-ed71a02a Standing Plugs: ••• Order Jathan’s new book: https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520398078/the-mechanic-and-the-luddite ••• Subscribe to Ed’s substack: https://substack.com/@thetechbubble ••• Subscribe to TMK on patreon for premium episodes: https://www.patreon.com/thismachinekills Hosted by Jathan Sadowski (bsky.app/profile/jathansadowski.com) and Edward Ongweso Jr. (www.x.com/bigblackjacobin). Production / Music by Jereme Brown (bsky.app/profile/jebr.bsky.social)

Serious Inquiries Only - SIO489: TikTok Banned #Skinnytok and It Was Right to Do So

Dr. Jenessa Seymour joins to discuss why TikTok's move here is aligned with what we know about eating disorders from the literature, and what happens when the internet doesn't draw a line like this.

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Stuff They Don't Want You To Know - Can We Talk With Animals? Chapter One: Your Pets Know Way More Than You

Do you have a bond with a household pet? Do they understand what you say to them -- and, if so, how much? In the first part of this two-part series, Ben, Matt and Noel dive deep into a question that's mystified humanity since the dawn of history: Can we really talk to non-human animals? Not at or to... but with? Tune in to learn how science may finally crack the code and turn us into real-life Doctor Doolittles.

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Native America Calling - Wednesday, September 3, 2025 – LGBTQ2+ identity is more than just an artistic expression

Indigenous Two-Spirit and LGBTQ+ artists often add another layer of expression to their work and stories. On top of celebrating their tribal and personal identities, they’re bringing stories and voices forward that aren’t often heard from elsewhere. They can also provide recognition and support for other LGBTQ2+ people searching for connection. We’ll take a look at three new and upcoming Indigenous Two-Spirit and LGBTQ+ art exhibits: “Queering Indigeneity” coming to the Minnesota Museum of American Art, “Two-Spirit and MMIW/R Voices” touring Minnesota, and “Two-Spirit and Gender Diversity through History” at the new Orillia Recreation Centre in Ontario, Canada.

GUESTS

Penny Kagigebi (White Earth Ojibwe), artist and emerging curator

Dr. Kate Beane (Flandreau Santee Dakota and Muscogee), executive director of the Minnesota Museum of American Art

Arnold Dahl-Wooley (Leech Lake Band of Ojibwe), national public speaker, advocate for the Two-Spirit LGBTQ+ community, and Twin Cities Pride BIPOC Leader of the Year

Jessica Martin (Métis), goldsmith, fiddle player, and yoga instructor

Monica Loney, (Métis) visual artist

 

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Break 2 Music: Bounty (song) Deerlady (band) Greatest Hits (album)

Ologies with Alie Ward - Neuropathoimmunology (MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS) with Aaron Boster

Neurons. Immune systems. MRIs. Weed gummies? One of the greats in neurology, Dr. Aaron Boster, takes time to chat all about Multiple Sclerosis, a neurological autoimmune disease close to our hearts. Alie’s mom, your grammapod a.k.a. Fancy Nancy, was diagnosed with MS over two decades ago, and this episode explores in depth the factors that can cause MS, therapies that do – and don’t –  show promise, how diet, exercise and mindfulness actually can help folks who have MS, the oftentimes agonizing journey to a diagnosis, and advice for those who’ve MS for a while – or are newly in the community. Also: yeah, weed. 

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It Could Happen Here - BlueAnon: Alt National Park Service

Garrison talks with Jack from AltWatcher about a viral social media account posing as dissent Park Service employees sending coded messages on the internet.

Sources: 

https://jjoycelynch.substack.com/
https://bsky.app/profile/altwatcher.bsky.social 

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Stuff They Don't Want You To Know - CLASSIC: Your News Agency or the CIA: The Story of Operation Mockingbird

Propaganda has always been a powerful tool, and humanity's recent technological innovations have only amplified its reach. Long-standing laws in the US were meant to prevent US propaganda for foreign audiences from reaching the domestic population, but over time those laws have been eroded... and, as it turns out, Uncle Sam was secretly pushing propaganda on the people for years beforehand. Tune in to learn more about Operation Mockingbird.

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Native America Calling - Tuesday, September 2, 2025 – Trump administration pushes for increased logging in Alaska’s Tongass National Forest

The Trump administration is working to remove protections for more than 58 million acres of national forests. A brief public comment period is now open on a plan to rescind the federal government’s 25-year-old Roadless Rule which prohibits road construction and timber harvesting in several states. Environmental groups and leaders of Alaska Native tribes with cultural ties to the Tongass National Forest — the country’s largest national forest — are raising alarms about the plan. The vast temperate rainforest covers 17 million acres and is also the nation’s largest stand of old-growth trees, many of which are at least 800 years old. Advocates warn that road construction and increased commercial logging threaten subsistence hunting, plant harvesting, and fishing. We’ll talk with tribal leaders and others about what’s at stake in Tongass and the future of forest management.

GUESTS

Chuck Sams (Cayuse and Walla Walla), director of Indigenous Programs at Yale Center for Environmental Justice and former National Park Service director

Cody Desautel (Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation), president of the Intertribal Timber Council and the executive director of the Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation

Mike Jones (Haida), president of the Organized Village of Kasaan

Ilsxílee Stáng/Gloria Burns (Haida), president of the Ketchikan Indian Community

Joel Jackson (Tlingit and Haida), president of the Organized Village of Kake

 

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It Could Happen Here - BlueAnon: Assassination False Flag and Liberal Election Denial

Garrison and Mia discuss the evolution of liberal conspiracy theories, and why people believe the Trump assassination was staged or that Elon Musk stole the 2024 election.

Sources:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/nov/07/threads-posts/no-20-million-democratic-votes-didnt-disappear-and/

https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/08/04/harris-nsa-audit-2024-election/

https://www.wired.com/story/election-denial-conspiracy-theories-x-left-blueanon/ 

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/americans-accept-election-results-even-if-some-are-unhappy-outcome

https://www.reddit.com/r/houstonwade/comments/1gnwsv0/they_cheated/

https://theplotagainstamerica.com/

https://www.cip.uw.edu/2024/11/18/conspiracy-theory-starlink-election-results/

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/nov/12/threads-posts/no-elon-musks-starlink-wasnt-used-to-rig-the-2024/

https://www.cjr.org/the_media_today/trump_assassination_attempt_online_conspiracy_theories_musk.php 

https://pro.morningconsult.com/analysis/trump-assassination-attempt-polling 

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Stuff They Don't Want You To Know - Strange News: An Orgy Dome Disaster, Cardboard Conspiracies, Insults on Airplanes and More

US Nationals captured attempting an info war to destablize Greenland. A lawsuit emerges on an airline. A cardboard cartel is in play and, it appears, actively conspiring against you. All this -- plus an orgy dome -- in this week's strange news segment.

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