The Ezra Klein Show - Is Decarbonization Dead?

Biden passed the most ambitious climate legislation in American history. Trump just shredded it. What does that mean for the future of renewable energy in America? Where does the climate movement go from here? And is it too late for us to avert climate catastrophe? 

To answer these questions, I invited onto the show two climate experts: Jesse Jenkins, who is a leading climate modeler and a professor at Princeton University, where he runs the Princeton ZERO Lab, and Jane Flegal, who is the executive director of the Blue Horizons Foundation and served on the Biden administration’s climate policy team.

We discuss how far Trump’s policies have set us back, the lessons the climate movement should learn from this loss and what the next wave of climate politics may look like. 

Mentioned:

Impacts of the One Big Beautiful Bill On The US Energy Transition – Summary Report” by REPEAT Project

There’s a Race to Power the Future. China Is Pulling Away.” by David Gelles, Somini Sengupta, Keith Bradsher and Brad Plumer

Jesse’s Book Recommendations:

Why Nothing Works by Marc J. Dunkelman

Energy by Richard Rhodes

Mars Trilogy Series by Kim Stanley Robinson

Jane’s Book Recommendations:

Mating by Norman Rush

Frontiers of Illusion by Daniel Sarewitz

An Engine, Not a Camera by Donald MacKenzie

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Pod Save America - CTRL-F ‘Trump’ in the Epstein Files

Your suspicions were correct: according to The Wall Street Journal, Trump’s name is in the Epstein files—and the Attorney General told him so all the way back in May. Trump responds with more lies, obfuscations, and distractions, accusing Barack Obama of treason, and sending Tulsi Gabbard out to try to prove the case without the benefit of facts or specifics. Dan and Jon discuss all the latest, including DOJ’s overtures to Ghislaine Maxwell, Trump's awkward stunt at the Fed building, and two federal judges ordering the release of Kilmar Abrego Garcia as he awaits trial. Then, Tommy sits down with Senator Mark Warner to discuss Trump’s treason accusations and what the intelligence community actually concluded about Russian election-meddling in 2016.

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The Indicator from Planet Money - Nigeria notches new highs, Magic gathers millions, and crypto climbs

It's ... Indicators of the Week! Our weekly look at some of the most fascinating economic numbers from the news.

On today's episode: Nigeria gets a GDP surprise, Magic the Gathering mutes tariff impact for Hasbro, and Bitcoin reaches record highs following the passage of the GENIUS Act.

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Consider This from NPR - Six months in, how Trump has changed the Education Department.

Federal education policy has seen a lot of changes since President Trump's inauguration. For example, the Department of Education itself, which Trump has vowed to close.

But that hasn't stopped the Trump administration from also wielding the Department's power. Most recently, by withholding billions of dollars for K-12 schools.

The Trump administration has drastically changed the federal government's role in education. What does that mean for American classrooms?

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The Commentary Magazine Podcast - Conspiracies Left and Right

As the Trump administration presses a case against the Obamans for pursuing Trump maliciously in 2016 and 2017, liberals and populists are pressing for more and more information on the confusing matter of Jeffrey Epstein. Is there an "omniconspiracy" of the American elites? And we take a look at the remarkable deal struck between the administration and Columbia University. Give a listen.


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Bad Faith - Episode 494 – What Happened to AOC? (w/ Corbin Trent)

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Co-founder of Justice Democrats and former communications director for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Corbin Trent talks AOC’s excuses for voting against Marjorie Taylor Greene’s amendment to pull weapons funding to Israel, whether AOC’s failures are evidence that it’s impossible to work within the Democratic Party, the Democrats’ hesitation to exploit Epstein, and how establishment Dems work to defeat not only progressive electeds but bedrock progressive policies like expanding abortion access.

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