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Two pilots are dead after an Air Canada flight crashed into a fire engine at New York’s LaGuardia airport. President Trump backs off a self-imposed threat to bomb Iran’s power plants, citing ongoing negotiations. And the U.S. Supreme Court appears poised to overturn mail-voting guidelines in more than 30 states.
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Iran has currently shut off more than 10 percent of the world’s oil supply. If that goes on for a lot longer — or if the war escalates to include more strikes on energy infrastructure in the region — the price of oil could go through the roof, and the damage to the global economy could be catastrophic.
So what would that look like? What tools does the United States have to avert it? And how is this crisis already reverberating in countries around the world?
Jason Bordoff is the founding director of the Center on Global Energy Policy at Columbia University and a founding dean of the Columbia Climate School. He served as a special assistant to President Barack Obama and senior director for energy and climate change on the National Security Council.
In this conversation, Bordoff answers all my questions about the crisis so far and how things could spin out from here, the strategic positioning of the United States, Europe, Iran, Russia and China, the developing countries likely to suffer the most and the lessons the world might take from this.
Mentioned:
“Making the U.S. More Resilient to Oil Price Shocks” by Jason Bordoff and Spencer Dale
“The Return of the Energy Weapon” by Jason Bordoff and Meghan L. O’Sullivan
Book Recommendations:
Material World by Ed Conway
More and More and More by Jean-Baptiste Fressoz
Deliver Me from Nowhere by Warren Zanes
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It’s been more than a month since the Department of Homeland Security shut down, and American airports are definitely feeling it. Now, President Donald Trump has sent ICE agents to at least 14 airports across the country. A Truth Social post over the weekend from Trump, said in part that ICE in airports will, “do Security like no one has ever seen before, including the immediate arrest of all Illegal Immigrants who have come into our Country, with heavy emphasis on those from Somalia.” In other words, ICE isn’t really there to help decrease the long wait times on security lines. Andrea Flores, a former Homeland Security official and founder of the pro-immigration initiative, Securing America’s Promise, joined the show to talk more about what ICE agents are doing at American airports.
And in headlines, Trump walks back his threats to escalate the war on Iran, the Supreme Court looks ready to limit mail-in voting, and closing arguments were heard Monday in a trial over whether Meta has been misleading users about the potential impact of social media on children.
Show Notes:
Tesla’s new semi-truck hasn’t been fully launched yet, but it’s already a hit with truckers, who are raving about its new features. WSJ’s Paul Berger explains what’s behind the phenomenon. Plus, WSJ reporter Te-Ping Chen describes how young people are aiming to AI-proof their careers. Belle Lin hosts.
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Cities are moving to take down monuments, memorials and street signs honoring César Chávez. Organizers are cancelling the annual events planned In honor of his March 31 birthday. While his contributions for migrant farmworkers and Chicano-Americans are indisputable, Chávez’ heroic status among those he fought for is now challenged by troubling allegations surfacing in a New York Times investigation decades after the fact. We’ll discuss the future of the movement Chávez is best known for, likely going forward without his name. We’ll also discuss any lessons his downfall may have for the tendency to build a cause around one man.
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Brenda Nicolas (Zapotec), assistant professor in the Department of Global and International Studies at the University of California, Irvine
Arcenio Lopez (Ñuu Savi), executive director of the Mixteco/Indígena Community Organizing Project (MICOP)
Desiree Tody (Red Cliff Band of Lake Superior Chippewa), Ashland and Bayfield County outreach program coordinator for the Center Against Sexual & Domestic Abuse
Joaquín Baca, Albuquerque City Councilor for district 2
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Kristi Noem is out, and Senator Markwayne Mullin is in (in theory) as the new DHS secretary. Mullin tried to strike a softer tone during his confirmation hearing, nodding towards rolling back controversial policies like entering homes without a judicial warrant—but his reputation as a Senate-floor brawler raises questions about whether that’s just rhetoric. Meanwhile, the partial government shutdown, ongoing since February 14, continues to affect the department, including causing disruptions to airport services.
What do all these developments signal about the direction that DHS is heading?
Guest: Nick Miroff, staff writer for The Atlantic covering immigration.
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