We are back to cover everything that happened over Passover: The firing of Attorney General Pam Bondi, presidential libraries, Trump's Truth Social post threatening Iran on Easter, the Artemis II mission, and the stunning rescue operation of the downed American airmen. Plus, Seth recommends Kat Rosenfield's new novel, How to Survive in the Woods.
The price of crude oil is fluctuating this morning. This comes after oil producers at OPEC+ agreed to slightly increase production over the weekend. We give you the facts. Plus, a preview of Thursday’s GDP revision. Also, “Marketplace Morning Report” host David Brancaccio speaks with the majority owner of a coffee roasting company.
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(Photo shows Majid Khademi the intelligence chief of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps in an undated photo. Credit: Iranian state media)
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A recent U.S. Supreme Court decision opens a new path for the controversial practice known as “conversion therapy”, a method aimed at questioning or even changing a person’s sexual orientation. More than 20 states ban the practice. It is condemned by major medial establishments including the American Psychological Association and the American Medical Association. LGBTQ2+ advocates at the Trevor Project call the Supreme Court’s ruling a “tragic step backward“. It is also one in the growing number of legal and policy challenges ranging from a ban on Pride flags to defunding HIV/AIDS treatment. We’ll hear from Native LGBTQ and Two-Spirit advocates and legal experts about the landscape for LGBTQ2 protections.
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Shelby Chestnut (Assiniboine), executive director of the Transgender Law Center
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To see the U.S. economy in 3D, you gotta hit the open road. 100 years after the iconic highway was built, “Marketplace Morning Report” host David Brancaccio kicks off his final week in the host chair with his journey on Route 66. His trip begins in Santa Monica, California. Along the way, he speaks with local business owners about the precarious job market, changing landscapes, and why one particular stop is a hit with French tourists.
New Iran cease-fire proposal. Artemis II is hours away from flying behind the moon. UCLA's women win. CBS News Correspondent Cami McCormick has those stories and more on the World News Roundup podcast.
Russell Southwood has been watching Africa's digital story unfold since 2000, when the number of people involved in the continent's internet could be counted in the hundreds.
Armed with yellow pages and a willingness to show up unannounced at ISP offices across Kenya, Zimbabwe, Zambia, and Uganda, he began documenting what he saw in a weekly email newsletter that would, over time, assemble what he describes as "a village of people who are interested in things digital in Africa."
In conversation with Andile Masuku, Southwood (who runs the consultancy Balancing Act and authored Africa 2.0: Inside a Continent's Communications Revolution, published by Manchester University Press in 2022) traces the arc from state-controlled telecoms monopolies to the mobile revolution, from M-Pesa's accidental brilliance to the VC hype cycle's oversimplifications. Along the way, he and Masuku wrestle with a tension that runs through the entire conversation: Africa is the same as everywhere else, and Africa is different. The ability to hold both of those truths simultaneously is what separates useful analysis from noise.
What emerges is less a victory lap and more a candid reckoning with what a quarter-century of digital transformation has actually delivered, what it hasn't, and why the timelines matter more than the headlines.
Key insights: On the "digital imaginary" versus the real economy: Masuku and Southwood frame the conversation around a distinction that deserves wider use: the imagined digital economy (aspirational, projection-heavy, sometimes naively futuristic) versus the real economy where plantain gets bought, goats get sold, and WhatsApp messages close deals. Southwood's quarter-century of observation sits at the intersection, and his sharpest insights emerge from refusing to collapse one into the other.
On what mobile actually disrupted: Before smartphones, before apps, before fintech, the foundational disruption was simply walking into a shop and walking out with a phone. Southwood argues that this broke a patronage system in which access to communication was rationed by the state to civil servants and political allies. It was capitalism, competitive pricing, and mass distribution that upended it. He acknowledges he might frame that differently today, but it shaped everything that followed.
On M-Pesa's real lesson: Southwood pushes past the standard M-Pesa origin story to land on what he considers the underappreciated insight: it worked because it bridged classes. The middle classes used it, the unbanked used it, and the two groups transacted with each other through it. Paying gardeners, drivers, and domestic workers instantly rather than in delayed cash. That cross-class utility, not the technology itself, is what made it stick.
On the long road ahead, and who gets to be patient about it: Southwood suggests Africa's real economic transformation may take another 15 to 20 years, and that the digitisation of government and large enterprises is part of a "long march" that is already underway but far from complete. He is candid about the difficulty of drawing firm conclusions from a story still being written, a posture the companion op-ed explores further.
On the VC narrative's distortions: Without dismissing venture capital outright, Southwood identifies a structural problem: VC funds raised partly from development finance institutions carry a double mandate. Deliver unicorn returns and reach women in villages. That tension forces overselling. The result is a gap between pitch-deck Africa and the Africa where a Kenyan job site might list 2,000 real positions for a population of 40 million, compared to Finland's 40,000 for five million.
Notable moments:
The yellow pages playbook: Southwood's account of arriving in Africa in 2000 with almost no contacts, looking up ISPs in the yellow pages, and simply turning up at offices to introduce himself as a London-based journalist. The anecdote captures both the smallness of the early ecosystem and the particular kind of access his outsider status afforded, a dynamic explored at length in the companion op-ed.
The jacket-rack computer: Southwood recalls visiting an African ministry of education where the computer was used by staff to hang their jacket on. The image is funny, pointed, and now outdated, but it captures how far the digitisation of institutions has come, even if the process remains uneven.
The Kenyan cab driver who discovered Google Maps: A turning point Southwood witnessed firsthand. After years of cab journeys involving multiple phone calls to locate destinations, a driver pulled up Google Maps on his phone. Southwood uses it to illustrate that technology adoption is fundamentally about behaviour change, not capability, and that what seems obvious to analysts is rarely obvious to users navigating real constraints.
The Twiga Foods cautionary tale: Southwood admits to being an early enthusiast of Twiga, the Kenyan logistics startup that recently ceased deliveries. His willingness to own that call, and to use it as evidence that single-country startups face structural ceilings, lends credibility to his broader argument that pan-continental scale is a prerequisite for transformative African businesses.
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Missiles struck across the Middle East overnight as President Trump's deadline for Iran to open the Strait of Hormuz nears. Trump posted a profane threat to bomb Iran's power plants and bridges if it doesn't open the Strait of Hormuz. And the Artemis II crew makes its closest approach to the moon today, sending humans farther into space than at any point in the last 50 years.
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Today’s episode of Up First was edited by Gerry Holmes, Dana Farrington, Russell Lewis, Mohamad ElBardicy, and Taylor Haney.
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