CrowdScience - Was there an idyllic time before carnivores?

Was there ever a time when life on earth was peaceful? Free of violence? No predators, no prey, just... vibes? Or has nature always been 'Red in Tooth and Claw'?

Have we always been eating each other?

Our listener Scott sent us on a quest to discover the origins of predators and prey, and to find out what all this ‘eat or be eaten’ stuff is really about.

Taking us back to the very dawn of life on earth, Professor Susannah Porter from the University of Santa Barbara lets Alex peer into an extraordinary world of microscopic warfare. It’s a dog-eat-dog (or, microbe-dissolve-microbe) world, with single celled organisms doing battle with each other. For billions of years, this was life on earth! Tiny, violent, and completely fascinating.

But what about bigger creatures? More complex ones - animals? Speeding forward several billion years, Alex arrives in the Ediacaran Period – a time of unusual tranquility, where strange, plant-like animals lived in relative peace. At the Natural History Museum in Oxford, UK, palaeontologist Dr Frankie Dunn shows him around.

So where did real predators come from, then? Alex is joined by Dr Imran Rahman as he ushers in one of the most extraordinary periods in Earth’s history – the magnificently named Cambrian Explosion! Here we find real predators, with teeth, claws, and impressive hunting appendages. Through the fossil record, we can see an arms race developing – as predators get more sophisticated, so does their prey. It’s ON.

Finally, Alex wonders if our own evolution, shaped as it has been by this predator-prey arms race, might have been very different without the threat of being chomped. Professor Lynne Isbell from the University of California, Davis takes Alex on a trip into our primate past, and tackles one of our most fearsome predators: snakes.

Presenter: Alex Lathbridge Producer: Emily Knight Series Producer: Ben Motley

The Bulwark Podcast - Tom Nichols: Remember the Split Screen

On Saturday, Trump would like nothing more than images from Los Angeles of tear gas and balaclava-clad anarchists throwing bottles at Marines to complement video of himself in the stands at his military parade, saluting the troops amid a field of flags. That's part of the reason why he chose LA to federalize the Guard—home to numerous adversaries who willingly take his bait. And while tanks are going to roll through DC, wrecking its streets for the big birthday boy, Israel is going after Iran like it went after Hezbollah. Meanwhile, Kristi Noem handled the Padilla incident like a little fascist, and it only just occurred to Trump how the deportations will affect farms and hotels. Plus, a "Les Miz" correction, a 'Godfather' goof, and fighting words over The Beach Boys v. Lou Reed.

Tom Nichols joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod.
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1A - The News Roundup For June 13, 2025

The second iteration of Donald Trump's travel ban goes into effect.

A federal judge rules that the government must release Columbia graduate student Mahmoud Khalil.

The International Monetary Fund looks to support Syria's economic recovery, saying that it will require investment from abroad.

And, more deaths are reported at food aid distribution sites in the Gaza Strip.

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Newshour - Israel’s military launches wave of attacks on Iran

Israel's military say they struck dozens of military targets, including nuclear targets in different areas of Iran.

Iran says the attacks by Israel are a declaration of war and there are warnings of a strong retaliatory response by Iran to the attacks which killed numerous military officials and scientists.

Also in the programme: Investigators in India have found the on-board video recorder from the Air India plane which crashed on Thursday, killing more than 240 people. We'll report from the crash site in Ahmedabad.

(Photo shows smoke rising from a damaged building in the aftermath of Israeli strikes in Tehran, Iran on 13 June 13, 2025. Credit: Majid Asgaripour/West Asia News Agency via Reuters)

CBS News Roundup - 06/13/2025 | World News Roundup

Israel targets Iran's nukes. Sole survivor in Air India jetliner disaster. And court clash over Trump troops in L.A. CBS News Correspondent Steve Kathan has those stories and more on the World News Roundup podcast.

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Cato Daily Podcast - Best of Cato Daily Podcast: Don’t Stop Impeachin’

Caleb O. Brown hosted the Cato Daily Podcast for nearly 18 years, producing well over 4000 episodes. He has gone on to head Kentucky’s Bluegrass Institute. This is one among the best episodes produced in his tenure, selected by the host and listeners.


Impeachment isn’t a dirty word. Gene Healy explains why Congress should consider it more often.


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