The Journal. - How Do You Refund $166 Billion?

After the Supreme Court ruled that many of President Trump’s tariffs were illegal, thousands of companies have sued the government in the hopes of getting their money back. WSJ’s Lydia Wheeler reports on the obscure court at the center of the refund battle and explains why the process will be slow and messy. Ryan Knutson hosts.  


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- How One Company Is Navigating a New Era of Tariff Uncertainty

- Trump's Tariffs Are Illegal. He's Got a Plan B.

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The Bulwark Podcast - Susan Glasser: The President Is Crazy and Delusional

Trump fired Pam Bondi, maybe the most destructive AG in the history of the United States, because she wasn't able to magically and lawlessly jail his political enemies. On Wednesday night, he told Americans that gas prices would naturally go down when he was finished with his war—much like the way he told the country in March 2020 that COVID would just go away. In reality, China may end up in control of the Strait of Hormuz and with freight passage paid with the Chinese Yuan. America and the world are paying for the incompetent (and petrified) advisers Trump has surrounded himself with. Plus, POTUS threatened war crimes on national television, the Iranian diaspora bet on the wrong horse, and who will be the next Barbie to get the ax?

Susan Glasser joins Tim Miller.

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State of the World from NPR - Paramedics pay the price of war in Lebanon

Israel has invaded Lebanon as the war in Iran expands in the region. Israel says the move is in pursuit of Iran-backed Hezbollah fighters— Hezbollah began firing rockets at Israel last month in support of Iran. Israel’s invasion has caused a humanitarian crisis in Lebanon with over a million civilians displaced and more than 1,300 killed in Israeli attacks, according to Lebanon’s government. And among the dead are at least 53 paramedics. Human rights groups say some of those first responders were targeted. We go to Beirut to examine that claim.

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In the Loop with Sasha-Ann Simons - When Illinois Banned Black People From Gathering, They Turned To Church

In 1819, Illinois lawmakers enacted the Black Laws, which required Black people to have a certificate of freedom to live in Illinois and made it illegal to gather in groups of three or more. That is, however, unless the gathering was for religious observances. From then on, churches made for and by Black people became hubs for connecting each other to resources, for education, as well as providing a spiritual home. In an ongoing series, WBEZ explores the history of Black churches in Chicago and their impact on their communities, faith and social justice movements. In the Loop sits down with Nicole Jeanine Johnson, WBEZ and CST investigative reporting fellow; Alden Loury, WBEZ senior data projects editor; and the Rev. John Smith of Olivet Baptist Church to learn more. For a full archive of In the Loop interviews, head over to wbez.org/intheloop.

1A - The State Of Abortion Access In 2026

It’s been nearly four years since Roe v. Wade was overturned.

Since then, abortion access across the U.S. has been in flux – and the fight around that care continues today. Now, 13 states have a total ban. And five have restricted abortion after six weeks of gestation. The latest state to do so is Wyoming.

But legal challenges to such bans are swift and constant, leading to confusion and uncertainty for both those seeking abortions and those who provide them.

And despite these partial or total bans, new data from the Guttmacher Institute found that the number of abortions has remained relatively unchanged from 2024 to 2025.

We sit down with a panel of experts to talk about the state of abortion access in 2026.

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Stuff They Don't Want You To Know - Listener Mail: One Moo To Rule Them All? Sleep Paralysis, McCasland Updates, Epstein Funded Telepathy, and More

In this weekly listener mail segment, Jmodaez hips Ben, Matt and Noel to Peter Thiel's funding of 'cowcollars'. Over on Spotify, Sasha prompts a conversation about why intelligence agencies love former Latter-day Saint missionaries. Sean shares a new experience with sleep paralysis. Anon reveals more allegations of connections surrounding the disappearance of General McCasland. Tune in to learn how this weekly segment informs actual episodes in the future!

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WSJ Minute Briefing - European Leaders Discuss Reopening Strait of Hormuz

Plus: Investors in two of Blue Owl Capital’s biggest private-credit funds asked to pull out roughly $5.4 billion in the first quarter. And Tesla and Rivian report sales growth. Imani Moise hosts.


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