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Ravi kicks off the show with the latest update in the Epstein scandal — a resurfaced birthday letter allegedly sent from Donald Trump to Jeffrey Epstein. He unpacks the implications of Trump's denial, the GOP's strategic calls to "release the list," and what's really at stake in the fight over grand jury testimony. From there, he turns to Trump's latest attacks on Obama, FEMA, and the U.S. dollar, connecting the dots between the President's social media meltdowns, a hollowed-out disaster response agency, and the economic fallout of chaotic trade policy.
Carter Sherman then joins the show to talk about her new book, The Second Coming: Sex and the Next Generation’s Fight Over Its Future, which explores Gen Z’s shifting attitudes toward sex, porn, dating apps, and sexual education. Ravi and Carter discuss how digital culture, incel ideologies, and the collapse of comprehensive sex ed are shaping the next generation’s understanding of intimacy and power.
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Jamie Dimon, the cautious head of JPMorgan Chase, has consistently warned that private credit, the hottest trend on Wall Street, could trigger a financial blowup. So why is America’s biggest bank pouring money into it? WSJ’s Alexander Saeedy explains JPMorgan’s strategy and why you should care. Annie Minoff hosts.
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President Trump announced a trade deal with Japan that will impose 15% tariffs on imports. Wall Street is happy, but it could put the United States in an awkward position as the Trump administration continues to seek other deals. Sabri Ben-Achour explains. Also, the federal government is leading a major deregulatory crusade. And they want your input. Plus, quilts and blooming plants make us smile.
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Plus, a probe finds that Klaus Schwab, the founder of the World Economic Forum, engaged in a pattern of misconduct. And the U.K.’s competition watchdog is proposing new guardrails on Apple and Google’s mobile platforms. Alex Ossola hosts.
CORRECTION: Home sales in June fell to a nine-month low. An earlier version of this podcast incorrectly said home sales fell to a 10-month low.
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